Plantation Pete

CJL was fired for interfering in the investigation... Had he not done that I suspect he'd still be here.

That is completely false and has been debunked repeatedly.

I don't believe the Leavitt allegations are manufactured, just blown way out of proportion...I had a high school coach that used to slap us, punch us (not hard), and headbut us on the helmet. Saban slaps players on national t.v. and nobody cares. It was an excuse I feel to appease the people who did not believe Leavitt could turn tthe corner and go from an 8-9 win team every year to a 10-11 win team that won the conference...people were tired of the lower level bowls and Doug found a "reasonable" cause to fire Leavitt.

Again...Crappy bowls were because of the crappy bowl affiliations of the Big Least. Regardless, the crappiest of crappy bowls sure looks good right now.

Wasn't it established a while back that Plantation Pete is just Mizzou again? You know the buddy of Jim Leavitt that said Leavitt would sue USF into oblivion. All of his posts have the exact same tone and hostility of Mizzou.

I'm a Florida resident and payer of Florida taxes.

You are probably right. Doug manufactured the entire thing and its a huge conspiracy.

Woolard was an opportunist who manufactured "cause" from a dust up that presented itself.

You already know it wasn't manufactured... And all you do is stir up the same age old controversy. You and nothing to this board and your sole purpose is to make people angry.

I've lost a lot of confidence in Doug with the way he has managed Skip but he must be one hell of a conspirator to convince so many people that something happened in the locker room.

Oh, Young hatter...You have so much to learn about life. Hopefully you won't remain so easily led and naive your entire life.

I think Woolard has empirically done a great job, upgrading facilities with rather limited funds-especially compared to the "Big 5" conferences.

Nice fountain.

I'm sure recruits are flocking to USF because of it.

Brad can we please get this troll outta here???

What did I say that wasn't true?

Your entire point was moot the moment you typed the last sentence... And yes it's been logged so editing it won't wipe it away.

Realizing the administration of one's alma mater is incompetent is much like admitting alcoholism. Until you have a "moment of clarity" recognizing and admitting the problem there can be no recovery.

Brad can we please get this troll outta here???

What did I say that wasn't true?

Woolard manufactured it, huh?

Why else would he have hired Gonzales and then pay out $2.75 million dollars of USF's money rather than testify under oath?

...when he manufactured cause to fire Leavitt so he wouldn't have to pay out his contract. In theory he thought he would save millions of dollars, but in reality he has endangered the budgets of all sports at USF since football ticket revenue pays the bills. Doug Woolard is a far greater threat to the destruction of USF Athletic than Skip Holtz could ever be.

Thus ends the lesson of unintended consequences...cause and effect.

1) never gonna happen

2) leave Leavitt alone-- this crap we are seeing has nothing to do with him at all

3) dumb idea imo

Bring in a new young coach who has potential and let him develop into a great coach. Stop trying to buy some proven winning coach that we can't afford and who will fail anyway. We need to take a few steps back and reload this program. Be patient with that prcess and hope like hell someone decides this is the right way to fix what is broken.

i agree with 1 2 and 3

and could live with a new young coach with ties to the state as long as he has a dynamic personality

did someone hack smazza's account?

lol

Ha ha. I agree too Mike. I think most know he is not coming back and would prefer to move on. It seems that most coaches are at their best in a 10 to 12 year window and then fade back. I just like to point out that things were not so back when we were going to the MagicPizzaJack.com bowl like some made it out to be. I had a feeling if we picked the wrong guy that things could get ugly and they have.

It wasn't Leavitt's fault the Big Least has ****** bowl games. If you want good bowl games then USF needs to be in the SEC or Big 12.

1) never gonna happen

2) leave Leavitt alone-- this crap we are seeing has nothing to do with him at all

3) dumb idea imo

Bring in a new young coach who has potential and let him develop into a great coach. Stop trying to buy some proven winning coach that we can't afford and who will fail anyway. We need to take a few steps back and reload this program. Be patient with that prcess and hope like hell someone decides this is the right way to fix what is broken.

Holtz was a new, young coach. How's that workin for ya?

Wow!

USFFreak lives! Greta to hear from you!

Bringing Leavitt back is an interesting idea....but it will never happen. Nor is it the only way to cleanup this mess.

I just remember folks wanting to run him out of town before Paul Miller's lying a$$ ever stepped on campus....so I am not sure how or why things would change. Unless of course we think that USF will suddenly learn not to take their program for granted or realize that we are not entitled to anything.....especially as a program less than 20 years old.

That begs the question...Can USF afford the risk of making another bad hire?

Would a top flight coach in demand even consider taking the job, especially knowing how Leavitt was railroaded?

absolutely

Dude...put the crack pipe down.

Wow!

USFFreak lives! Greta to hear from you!

Bringing Leavitt back is an interesting idea....but it will never happen. Nor is it the only way to cleanup this mess.

I just remember folks wanting to run him out of town before Paul Miller's lying a$$ ever stepped on campus....so I am not sure how or why things would change. Unless of course we think that USF will suddenly learn not to take their program for granted or realize that we are not entitled to anything.....especially as a program less than 20 years old.

That begs the question...Can USF afford the risk of making another bad hire?

Would a top flight coach in demand even consider taking the job, especially knowing how Leavitt was railroaded?

He's gone, he needed to be gone, and I hope to god he never comes back. How many years do you think that it would take him to bring the Bulls back to relevance? I’d say we give him 1 conference game, if we don’t win by 35, then he should be deemed a failure. If he doesn’t win a conference title in his first year, he should be deemed a failure, if he doesn’t win an MNC in his first year; he should be deemed a failure. He won’t need any of his players; as he will be able to turn every single player into a world beater. Right? Skip’s got to go, but this bring Leavitt back ******** is ridiculous!

BTW Frank Kush coached ASU for 21 years. Now that is a clear false equivalence.

^^^ People like this are USF's biggest problem. They simply can't comprehend how Leavitt worked miracles with nothing but declared it was not enough and proceeded to kill the goose that laid the golden egg.

I have it on a good authority of a person who is friends with Leavitt, and he told me Leavitt does not even think about USF anymore. No negative thoughts, no good thoughts, nothing. He is enjoying his job with the 49'ers right now, and he is not looking back.

Leavitt is part of the past. He does not want to be here, and USF admin does not want him either.

It is about time to stop bringing up this topic, because it has been beaten to a pulp already.

Right now I think a large number of USF Alumns do not want the USF Admin to be here. Let's say we fire everybody and then test your "theory."

Not sure how my statement is a "theory". I am not going to name names, and I hate to sound like a name dropper, but a good friend of mine is a higher up in the USF Alumni Association, and he personally knows Jim Leavitt. The old ball coach does not want to come back to USF. He is enjoying his new job with the San Francisco 49'ers. He is not going to come back to USF. How hard is that to understand.

LOL!

Trust me...My authority is way higher than your authority. Your authority is without question full of ****.

You guys are silly. Leavitt couldn't keep coaches (because of how he treated them) and players quit on him on more than one occasion down the stretch. Is he better than Skip, without a doubt. However, saying Leavitt is better than Petrino is non-sense. Leavitt also had an affair (Bobby isn't the only one out there screwing around). I've come full circle with Coach Leavitt. When I first met him, I wanted to choke him out (long story behind it). When I played for him, I would run through a wall for him - although when I look back at things now, I was running through the same wall my teammates were running through. After playing for him, I realized how much I disliked him. Years later, my stance has softened. Maybe tough love was appropriate considering the type of players we recruited. I still believe he peaked though (no shame at peaking at #2 in the nation even for a week). Truth be told, if the players hadn't quit on him more than once, I would say bring him back. However, I know what I watched in 2004... as well as what went down late in 2007-2009.

What's the saying, "F*ck me once, shame on you. F*ck me twice, shame on me."

B U L L S H I T!

Leavit couldn't keep coaches because they could go to places like Gainesville and make more money.

When I was 21 I would run through a hail of live gunfire for my drill sargent. Now that I'm 57 I would reconsider doing so. When you're the underdog with less talent you have to have your troops breathing fire and pissing vinegar and BELIEVING IN THEMSELVES!

I have it on a good authority of a person who is friends with Leavitt, and he told me Leavitt does not even think about USF anymore. No negative thoughts, no good thoughts, nothing. He is enjoying his job with the 49'ers right now, and he is not looking back.

Leavitt is part of the past. He does not want to be here, and USF admin does not want him either.

It is about time to stop bringing up this topic, because it has been beaten to a pulp already.

Right now I think a large number of USF Alumns do not want the USF Admin to be here. Let's say we fire everybody and then test your "theory."

Odd it hasn't been mentioned. Sure, he's snakebit, but redemption is always a decent storyline.

Honestly he's the only guy out there that's going to care enough to resurrect this program. It is in shambles...pure shambles....and not only that it is in shambles at the absolute worst time with all this conference repositioning. Think about it....if we were at No. 12 - 20 these past two years where we'd be trying to punch our dance card.

Instead, we are on the precipice of irrelevance. Shame.

Cut Skip and Woolard (and maybe Genshaft) then ask him. If he can get what he considers a good head coaching job he wants to get back to college. Otherwise he'll stay in the NFL and collect a Super Bowl ring...or two.

Please, no real Bulls fans write on anything Plantation Peckerhead posts. Someone get this clown off TBP.

Well...You wrote something so you must not be a real Bulls fan.

He will jump right back on the bandwagon when things get better

They won't get better.

Skip has destroyed USF football. DESTROYED. All the rest of the teams will find lifeboats out of the BE.

USf is permanently relegated to small time football if stuck in BE. USF/Holtz picked the wrong time to go in the toilet. USF will be luck to save the Big Least with a collection of Tulane's, UAB's, and Army's.

Any competent coach would have USF in the big 12 or ACC. Skip permanently damanged and banished USF to the kids table.

Let me repeat. They won't get better.

Holtz didn't do it alone. Doug Woolard is the one who set the table.

Whose fault? For years in football we had huge meltdowns in conference... Now we are just bad...

Basketball had a great year last season and we get stomped by UCF at home as we open the dome.

Please define "for years" and "huge meltdowns" for me.

I understand that 4 or 5 years represents a big percentage of your life but to me it's just a blip in time. 1999 seems like yesterday to me.

He will jump right back on the bandwagon when things get better

I think the wheels have fallen off the wagon.

Thanks Doug Woolard.

Skip got himself and the entire staff fired today.

Hopefully Woolard will get fired as well. This is HIS fiasco.