OncomingStorm

Been lurking throughout the spring, but wanted to say I'm sorry to see you go Ricky.... You were one of the more level headed here.

So another prominent member leaves because of the circle-jerk nature of this forum that I know Brad has been attempting to stamp out since January. I'm soooo shocked, I tell you. And those select few users who keep jerking each other will end up driving everyone away until there's just a handful of users left.

27 minutes ago, puc86 said:

I am sorry that was not my intention but I think the interview makes it pretty clear from his own mouth that USF is better served by him being singularly focused on USF. I am not saying it means we should not have hired him. I am not saying that it meant the world has come to an end because of it. However I do think it’s worth noting that it certainly wasn’t beneficial to us or in our best interest and having a head coach that doesn’t have another full time job is of greater benefit than hoping we get a mention during a playoff game (which didn’t happen in either game). Look at how much more buzz and excitement CJS has generated since leaving Clemson, it’s night and day and there is no way anyone thinks that month was the same as the last few days.

Did you consider it makes us look better as a school/program to possible recruits, potential future coaches/ADs, HS coaches in the area, college football power brokers and whoever else that we let Scott complete his season with Clemson?

I think it makes us look great. The situation were in as a program, you can never have too good an image to as many people as possible, and telling Scott he couldn’t coach in the playoffs would have been a bad look.

Edit: Actually I don’t want to get caught up in this. Just please tone it down.

4 hours ago, puc86 said:

So he wasn’t as focused on USF as he could have been when he was working two full time jobs, odd.

Man you are making this place less enjoyable to lurk, let alone post.

1 hour ago, jjlovecub said:

How do we know this coaching staff is going to be good? Not saying they aren’t but CJS has never been a head coach. I know we are hopeful but it is still very much unknown. 

Well, our HC has won 2 National Championships as a coordinator in the past half decade, and may be coming here with a third. He helped build a culture of winning at Clemson with Dabo from the start. And our two new coordinators just won a Conference Championship this month.

What was the last coaching staff we had with this pedigree of success?

I think too many people put too much stock in whether a coach has specifically been a Head Coach before, rather than looking at their actual experience. Of course not every coordinator should be an HC, but it would be foolish to discount any coordinator for an HC gig because they hadn't been an HC before.

1 minute ago, Triple B said:

That would actually be refreshing at this point ....

Rumor has it that no progress has been made.

I’m trying to confirm...

1 hour ago, ToroDeFuego said:

Supposedly Ole Miss and Arkansas are after Lane Kiffin so he's probably out here, which I'm happy about.

Does anyone seriously think we were an option for Kiffin? That’s the most insane thought I’ve heard in this whole process. More insane than the notion that firing Strong was impossible.

How is it that an IPF wasn’t part of Douggie W’s expensive athletic facility spending spree?

5 minutes ago, TallyBull said:

Joey to the rescue!

https://twitter.com/tbtimes_bulls/status/1202733040394526720

 

Not surprising. QF still supported Willie in a podcast interview with a FSU fan site just after Willie was hired in Dec ‘17 (shortly after QF’s final USF game)

The story is that the IPF is on hold during the coaching search.

So for a week or two.

Big whoop.

28 minutes ago, SpeedBull said:

Does anyone know who this guy is? I hope this is true, but don’t trust a random tweet. 

Well per his Twitter, he is a member here.

Perhaps he can elaborate in this thread?

55 minutes ago, Bull94 said:

clearly you're not over it. you just compared him to a girl that cheated on you.

he took a better job. one that paid him 3 times what he was getting here. every single person on here would do the same. and if they say different then they aren't being honest.

Let’s say you are an employer, and an employee leaves you for a competitor and bad mouths your company on the way out. He then leaves that job after a year for another gig, which he gets fired from. Then he wants to come back to you.

Do you forgive that employee for bailing the first time and insulting you in the process?

13 minutes ago, MSBulls said:

My favorite is the comment asking for him to donate FSU money to the IPF to show his commitment!! Boy we could make some ground

That would legitimately allow me to forgive him for the way he left.

34 minutes ago, 7overlord said:

I am debating on whether I should tell a few stories or answer any questions those may have from the last 3 seasons.

Do you have any thoughts on how the season-to-season decline over three years could have been avoided?

Cautiously optimistic.

6 minutes ago, Corey lea said:

Some of you inbreds would root against your own mother.  You will never win by complaining about everything within the program. You keep forgetting that this program has no history or money. It will always be a crapshoot here.

You’re still here?

Shocker

I can’t wait to warn whatever fanbase hides Strong about this guy

I wouldn’t be surprised if it takes a week or less. By all accounts, Kelly has been prepared for this. The lack of an external search committee alone will accelerate the process.

15 minutes ago, GaUSFBull said:

Which isn't the same as this, at least on Planet Earth:    

 

Well, we are going to have to agree to disagree on the implication of “If no one else is sniffing around him, why should we?”

3 minutes ago, GaUSFBull said:

   Can't have a conversation with you if you don't read.  

 

 

I can read this:

“How many other jobs is he in contention for?  That also matters.  If no one else is sniffing around him, why should we?”

5 minutes ago, GaUSFBull said:

Not only are you getting very off track on this discussion, but you're also putting words in my mouth.  I didn't say it was a top factor.  But even though it is a factor (funny you say it is now, after you said that the point I made was defeated), it still has to be considered.  We're talking millions of dollars at stake here.  We have to get it right.  But you and Mike apparently want MK to put blinders on and only look at Larry Scott, apparently based on his being a former Bull and potentially loyal to the program for decades.  It's probably a safe bet that neither of you have much experience in hiring employees.  

I never said to only look at Larry Scott, whereas you indicate we shouldn’t look at him because no one else is doing so.

Just now, NewEnglandBull said:

That’s an excellent point. He could probably still get a FCS job if the right opportunity came up. 

It’s worth pointing out that Valdosta did fantastic without KB as coach this year. Undefeated regular season, made it to championship game ranked #1, lost it by 3 points. Averaged 39pts a game.

Makes you wonder how much of their recent success was KB’s playcalling...

4 minutes ago, GaUSFBull said:

It doesn't defeat the argument, it's an exception to it.  I've been to plenty of job interviews where I'm asked if I'm being considered for similar positions to what I'm interviewing for, and which companies.  People want to know if they are hiring someone who's in demand and considered a top selection.  That's almost universal, and it's why you see so many retreads that had a little bit of success somewhere but maybe had a bad experience or two get hired.  

Any prospective employer who makes a decision based on what other jobs a candidate is looking at, rather than independently judging the candidates credentials, is not the smartest employer.

Just because you are applying for jobs at three different companies doesn’t mean you’re a good fit for all or any of them.

I’m not saying it’s not a factor to consider, but hardly the top factor.

4 minutes ago, GaUSFBull said:

Wrong about QF.  Taggart wanted him.  That's someone.

 

That’s exactly my point. We wanted a talent that no one else wanted.

This defeats the argument that if no one else is sniffing around, why should we?

The best coaches find hidden gems. That’s equally possible when it comes to finding coaches.

8 minutes ago, GaUSFBull said:

How many other jobs is he in contention for?  That also matters.  If no one else is sniffing around him, why should we?  

Let’s rewind 8ish years:

No one wants QF as a QB. So why should we?

Point being, under-recognized talent exists everywhere.

6 minutes ago, MikePhillips said:

But MAYBE... a former player will

I agree. Bring on the Larry Scott era. At the very least, if someone else is HC, bring Scott as OC and groom him as the eventual successor.