This is by far the most pathetic thread on this board. Like the guy said, recruits dads read this board. For you to write this obvously you have never spent time with Coach Holtz. Who is not going to let their kid play for a man because they feel his in game coaching is not up to their standards. I would want my son playing for a good man who has my sons best interests at heart and who runs a CLEAN program as Skip does. I hope this gets taken down, I am embarassed for you who started this thread.