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  1. 6 minutes ago, Rizman said:

    No.  This University is full of chickens. 

     

     

    Not sure admin being chicken would really impact an announcement. If they're putting things together behind the scenes and there's nothing firm enough to announce yet, they kinda can't announce anything.

    Although, I suppose announcing that you are putting things together behind the scenes, are committed to an OCS, and want it by x year would be a huge step. And would make pro-OCS fans happy.

  2. 1 hour ago, USFsurfer06 said:

    They stated in a video on 10/22 that Big 12 Chapter 2 would happen in November!? Sounds too soon.

    Well (straightening out my tinfoil hat), Homecoming is in November. So . . . if we announce OCS plans at Homecoming and B12 wanted a commitment/OCS, then that'll open the doors for them to extend an invite later that month. By the time we start playing in the B12, the OCS will be a year or two out from completion.

  3. 8 hours ago, MikeG said:

    Ten years from now-- do you think there will still be an OCS argument happening? I have been arguing about this for OVER 20 years.

    I do.

    I'm sure the probability is hovering around 100% on that. If we do actually get an OCS, I'm sure it'll be closer to beer budget than champagne, so there's guaranteed to be a faction that reminds us that it's a waste of money, it's not as posh as RayJay so we won't get good donors or recruits, it doesn't have Lazyboy recliners, whatever. I guess it's human nature. Hopefully, though, the thing won't move around and maybe it'll have a few water fountains so we won't have to argue about those things.

  4. 6 minutes ago, MikeG said:

    USF has all of it's sports played in OCS except for football. Please tell us how you have used those game days to stroll around campus and wax prolifically about your golden years going to USF.

    What a bunch of total BS. Game day experience (read this carefully) SIX TO EIGHT TIMES A FREAKING YEAR is somehow the savior of our football team? Ridiculous.

    Take a team like Pitt --- TOP 25 rated and even a former conference mate. Did you realize they had an on campus stadium (still do possibly though now unused) but when the Steelers and city decided to build Heinz Field -- they did so as a partnership. Quite unique and even the iron gates feature BOTH logos. Hasn't stopped them from moving on from the Big East and into the ACC or having success. The difference? They have been around over a century. Like RJS-- it is also a central location that helps ALL fans get to the stadium, not just LAZY ******* COLLEGE STUDENTS who can't be bothered to roll out of bed.

    It is not essential to have an OCS - not at all. Especially living in a metropolitan area where we have options on where we can play (Old Sombrero and then RJS) versus some dumpy place like Norman OK that HAD to build aplace to play their game and started so long ago that they built the place up. All those other schools have something USF will never have-- tons of history. If you are so dead set on having an OCS-- great. But making BS statements about WHY WE NEED ONE need to stop. They are nonsense and completely refutable.

    I think you might be confusing "need" meaning we'd really like one for all of the reasons proponents have already listed and the literal "need" meaning that USF football will actually cease to exist without one. You seem smart enough to tell the difference between the two. Clearly, nobody is saying the world will come to an end without an OCS. But, we see exactly how far we've gotten without an OCS and playing in RJS. Whether relegation has come because we play in a red pro stadium, because we lose a lot, because casual fans will never accept USF, because of inept administrator, terrible luck, who knows. To me our slide and some way out of it is a totally different issue than wanting an OCS.

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  5. 11 minutes ago, michibull said:

    I believe students would rather walk to the stadium and sit on bleachers, than catch a bus to the stadium. I believe having friends that you go to and tail gate at Engineering Building 1 will find it more convenient and more fun to go down memory lane than driving off campus to a grass parking next to Yankee stadium Jr. I believe parents deciding to take their kids to a game and walking through campus sharing memories more convenient than “just” going to a game. I believe transplant alumni that come back to Florida on vacation will find it more convenient to spend a day at campus and a game than having to split it between 2 days because they are not located on the same campus. I believe that going to a USF Bulls football game with Green and Gold everywhere and even with a football history/hall of fame dedicated to USF rather than red and pewter with a pirate ship in the end zone creates a more enticing appeal which would off set some negatives. College sports means so much more and is more personal than professional sports. I could be wrong, but this is how I was brought up and what I believe. 

    I ran out of reactions, so I just want to say that I totally agree. For many of us (most of us?) alumni, campus is full of memories and there's a lot of emotion tied to it. Watching our school play football there, on campus, would be something really, really special. Taking my kids to WBB and MBB games over the years, I've been able to point out buildings I had courses in, tell stories of my time at USF in the actual places those stories happened, etc. That goes way beyond just showing up to watch 3 hours of football someplace.

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  6. 1 minute ago, USFRaider said:

    Sure, the hardcores like you and I would watch USF play 22 garbagemen, but if we want the fan base to grow, we want the ticket sales to grow, scheduling trash like UConn is not going to move the needle one bit. There is a minor buzz for teams like Alabama and Notre Dame being on future schedules, but once the P5 and G5 are solidified as the major and minor leagues once realignment settles down, then USF is going to struggle even more being a minor league college football team playing in a professional sports town.

    Tampa has been a very weird sports town until fairly recently. And USF hasn't gotten much respect locally, well, ever. It might be something that my kids or my kids' kids will have to correct. Until enough people age into being USF football fans based on going to games as a kid with their parents or grandparents and hearing about the Bulls all their lives, I don't know what we do except just keep playing and trying to win. I don't know that playing a couple of marquee games each year will really move the needle that much anyway, in terms of fanbase, unless we consistently win. At the end of the day, we're stuck dealing with what we've got. 

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  7. 1 minute ago, USFRaider said:

    Because the P5 will be scheduling even more games with each other and less games with the G5. There will become less and less of a reason to schedule G5 teams.   P5 conferences are growing larger, and therefore scheduling less OOC games.The stark dividing line will be the P5 teams (the major leagues) and the G5 teams (the minor leagues).  Very rarely will the two lines cross.

    There's still a chance that we go to the B12 or somewhere better than the AAC, so that would solve the problem. On the other side of that coin is that if expansion keeps going and we end up with a P4 of superconferences that may or may not start their own league outside the NCAA, we're out anyway and none of this will matter. 

    As a couple of others have said, I'm here to watch USF play football. If I'm here for USF, it doesn't really even matter who we play. Would I rather watch us play Alabama than Albany? Yeah, of course. But, it won't keep me from watching. 

  8. 6 minutes ago, USFRaider said:

    Well from here on in, now that we are sentenced to an eternity in the minor leagues, the scheduling is just going to get worse.  The days of scheduling P5 teams are over, so I am glad Kelly loaded up before our sentence was handed down.  Lets just hope the P5 teams don't cancel on us.  

    Why would it be over? We played what were then the equivalent of P5 teams even before we got into the BE. 

  9. The UConn Huskies and the USF Bulls have scheduled a home-and-home football series for the 2023 and 2028 seasons, FBSchedules.com has learned.

    A copy of the contract for games with the University of South Florida was obtained from the University of Connecticut via a state Freedom of Information Act request. The contract was executed on May 25, 2021.

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    The UConn Huskies and the USF Bulls have scheduled a home-and-home football series for the 2023 and 2028 seasons.

     

     

    If the contract was executed back in May, why no announcement? And an FOIA request uncovers it. Weird.

  10. 8 hours ago, OnTheBus said:

    Protective Stadium lacks any kind of unique character. It's as bare-bones a design as it gets. Please USF, aim better than that.

    The bones are good. You can skin the outer walls with all sorts of stuff, frosted glass paneling, etc. and you can design the heck out of the grounds around the stadium. We're on a budget here, but the design can roll in the brand all over the place.

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