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It's harder to get into than FSU now, just shows how high the demand is and how much the school has grown in the last 10 years. Not a flame, this is the 'state of florida' board....more athletic fees can't hurt

majority of the students from outside the Orlando metro area also, didn't know their expanding the gym more...it's already huge http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/education/orl-ucf-number-one-101409,0,126628.story

There is a reason that rumor was so strong last year and Tribble had a press conference to state that Oleary is still our coach, It wasn't just a made up internet rumor, it was very close to happening but won't give details why it didn't(but it's an easy guess why it didn't go through)

a wins over Alabama in 2000 I would put on the list....but I know UCF administration has made mistakes in the past pre-oleary that really slowed the growth of the program....there's a lot of history to that you can look up but UCF could have been in a much better position a long time ago. But they aren't, the only thing that can be done is for the current administration to try to get it right which in part they have by building up the athletic facilities/athletic village and having Keith Tribble as the successor to AD Orsini. The coaching situation is questionable, we all know that but we'll see how UCF leadership decides to act for the future of our program. USF has made some quick leaps w/ some good leadership at the top starting w/ lee roy selmon and had some fortune roll you way also w/ the last Big East shakeup where you had the larger basketball arena at the time which was a big factor in their decision. USF has done more starting w/ less and I give you're administration credit, now we'll see what UCF will do in the future w/ the investment that has been put into the football program.

I'm still a fan....yeah things haven't progressed well lately but we'll get there...probably w a different coach and conference

O'leary keeps collecting his retirement check, his act is growing old and worse every season...from the way he treats boosters, fans, media and the bottom line performance on the field. Starts Calabrese again after he struggled against a AA opponent and he immediately puts us in 14-0 hole w/ 2 turnovers....that falls on the head man...honestly I've been on the get rid of him bandwagon since the 64-12 disaster in 07...I never root against my school but part of me wants this year to go really bad (2-3 wins) so maybe the AD will get the point and try to force him to retire and maybe avoid some that buyout(which was stupid in the first place for a guy that old)...ofcourse there are still some homers that still somehow support the guy

I think we have a chance to make the Miami game interesting....the way their schedule shapes up it's the ultimate trap game and they probably won't expect the atmosphere that they will play in.....Texas could get ugly for us

BC and Maryland are not dumb...traditionally ACC is better...they would never jump back to the Big East....article is just a bunch of self promotion by the Big East....worry about the Mountain West taking your auto bid

ok u guys can dog are underachieving football program but our basketball program has actually been solid for the most part making the transition from a-sun to cusa

Jordan is a brand name, very good for UCF

111 pages, wow...now that fall is getting a little closer and I know many Bull fans will miss our series(u won't admit it), it was a lot of fun for the fans and one of those rivalries that everyone knew someone else from the other institution which won't be the case with Rutgers, not sure about the demographic of this message board but most students/recent alumns probably enjoyed it more than usf alumni that are say 35 or older ;D

sounded a lot like roid rage....he has some issues, sad b/c he is so talented...hopefully he doesn't throw his career away

Joe Dumar's son plays for USF? excuse my ignorance, don't really follow college basketball closely

what happened to that arena thread? ;D

Well, you don't have to use that model. In fact, there are ethical issues with that model. I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me why building a strip mall on your campus is good for academic enrichment. It is not even remotely the same thing as a student union as mentioned. How is leasing or giving away land/facilities to private companies being a good steward of state resources? I don't get it. I do get the fact that everyone in charge but Hitt is no longer with your school. Secondly, can anyone name another school that has such facilities on campus property? I understand you questioning an ethics part of it but it's simply a strategy UCF used to compete w/ the other state schools and it has worked in my opinion. Pre 2000 is was pretty easy to get into UCF but now it's pretty difficult, gradually getting more difficult every year. UCF was built w/ the circular model that made it walkable and appealing even before the added village on the north side. Hitt and company thought enhancing the campus life/amenities was a priority and thought a lot of potential high quality students would take it into account to steal a few away from UF and other schools. There was a St. Pete Times and Oracle article on this topic a year ago that sums it up pretty good about the options at UF and UCF's campus even on late night weekends, all things that students take into account along w/ their intended Academic track. I'm not sure other schools that have tried the same thing but I think FAU may try it but the economy might slow down the process for them. Most schools that need to do this are either 'city schools' or in UCF's case a 'suburban' school. If you have been to Gainesville, they have a strip right across campus w/ restaurants and bars that's technically off campus but you would never know you left campus....across the street from UCF's north side you have deed restricted neighborhoods so you have to build it up your own way to erase the commuter image. http://www.sptimes.com/2007/10/14/State/UCF_finds_its_ameniti.shtml http://www.usforacle.com/2.6025/1.619845

I haven't been to the new Arena yet for a game but it's definitely the gem of the Athletic Village, the football stadium serves it's purpose but doesn't compare to the arena but hopefully upgrades will be done with time. It's like it's own little downtown which is kind of cool w/ the dorms right there, you basically have that area then the opposite side of campus by the fitness center/rec pool as the 2 centers of activity for student living on campus w/ the Student Union in the middle, nice planning by the university wigheads....maybe USF would do something similar if there is room on campus. You basically have to use that model when your campus is not situated in a college town like Gainesville or Tallahassee where the town mixes in w/ their campuses....you have to make your campus like a town to create a similar atmosphere for the students.

I was a former NCAA athlete so as far as working goes, all athletes have to report to compliance to let them know if they're working and how much they are making. If they exceed the max amount allowed(if they have enough evidence) they could lose their eligibility. In Grothe's case there is probably not enough evidence or it could be covered up on how much he was making so his eligibility probably won't be affected. The fact he didn't report to USF compliance about working there could cause some problems.

Arrests like this are pointless. This law is broken in every college atmosphere basically every night but it's whenever the agencies decide they need more money hence pointless arrests like this. I have never agreed with the drinking age being 21 in the first place. At 18 you can go to Iraq, well **** you should be able to buy a beer.