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I'm not sure we ever stopped Nevada. They stopped themselves. That is why it was so frustrating. Our D Line was gassed by the end of the first quarter and couldn't touch Fajardo all day. Aside from the two fumbles I don't really recall any positive plays on Defense until the final play. Nevada probably could have put 50 on us without the drops and penalties. We couldn't stop them from moving the chains at all. It reminded me alot of that pathetic Pitt game from last year.

I think that's how a lot of the Nevada fans feel, but when you look at the game subjectively most would probably agree they started off hot and once we got familiar (took too long) with their O we did a decent job and our O kicked into high gear in the 4th Q with top tier WR talent. If we keep that energy/enthusiasm going our O is going to be dangerous.

They definitely should have gone for it. Risk was minimal considering how our defense was unable to stop up the gut. I was thanking the football gods when I saw Superman punting.

Didn't they just run three times up the gut and get stopped in order to force that punt?

Muncie is already better than BJ, he would throw for 400 a game with our WR

Don't think so, he's had plenty of balls hit the ground in front of open receivers.

After stepping back and thinking about it, the team played well overall. I believe the the best indicator of performance is the first half. We moved the ball at will up and down the field after the first drive. I can name at least 4 of BJ's interceptions in exactly the same situation. At least this one didn't cost us the game.

If the coaching staff is content with just running out the clock there I think it changes the entire complexion of what they are trying to accomplish and we completely destroy UT-C. We go into the loocker room up 21-3. One more score and you can get the twos more work for more than just a couple of series.

The defense was stifling. The OL always needs time to gel. Several of those kids on OL were playing in their first game let alone the first time playing together. They will come around. Murray has proven, for 3 years already, that he is capable. BJ, when given time is a good QB that now has legit weapons. I have confidence in the players.

My concerns are with Fitch in certain situations (like red zone and 3rd down) and sometimes with Holtz game management and clock management. In close games a coaches decisions can lose games for you or, depending on execution, win games. These 2 guys make me nervous and the defense should keep us in every game.

My only concerns really are OL pass blocking and some of the dumb ass things that Holtz does. The OL will come along and play better each game.

When we were up 21-3 with less than 2 minutes to go, around on own 20, please Skip, just run the clock out and stop being cute. If he was trying to work on the 2 minute drill in a live situation there, OK, fine. Then Fitch's playcalling there is ridiculous. Run some quick 7 to 10 yard outs where you don't burn time and the receiver catches it and gets out of bounds quickly or it goes incomplete. Both the game management and play call were idiotic in that situation. BJ should not have been in that situation in the first place.

You've been harping on this so I figured I would mention a post game interview over on Rivals I think it was. Holtz, or it might have been Fitch, basically said that wasn't the play called and BJ was trying to force something and he knows he shouldn't have done that...

was the play called a pass? Fitch doesn't learn. it happened against UF. pass play called inside our 20 with under 2 to play. picked and they scored a TD. it happened against WVU. pass play called inside our 20 with under 2 to play. picked and they scored a TD. same with western kentucky. inside 20 under 2 to play picked. didn't cost us though. Fitch isn't smart enough to realize we don't have peyton manning or tom brady back there. he isn't smart enough to realize it is far too risky to think we can drive length of the field with under 2 to play.

Insanity- doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

if it was a pass play called then it was their fault regardless of whether or not they take the responsibility.

Pretty sure you yourself had suggested a safer pass to the side/flat in another thread and I think that's what they had called. Are you suggesting that they not throw the ball at all when behind their 20 or 30? That would probably limit things quite a bit and would be conservative to the extreme. Even not throwing the ball at all when behind their 20 or 30 in the last 2 min of the first half, especially against a FCS team our D is smothering, is too conservative, in my opinion.

I didn't suggest a pass. I never have. it is clear that with this offense it is a huge mistake to pass the ball that deep in our zone when there is little time left before the half. you are giving them an opportunity to score with little time left. hell throw it 50 yards down field for all I care. if they pick it then it's more like a punt.we ran the ball for 7 yards on the previous play. my thought is if you don't have joe montana(or at least a top 10 college passer) back there then you run it and if you break off a couple of long runs to get you near the 45-50 then you can pass it. especially that close to the half. or like I said throw it so deep that it's more like a punt than a costly turnover inside our territory.

game situation dictates whether or not it's worth the risk. the only way they score against our defense there is if we risk a stupid turnover deep in our territory. sure we could fumble the ball but an interception is more likely. they have done it time and again proving they haven't learned from past play calling mistakes.

I'm not saying we never pass inside our 30 either. I'm saying the only way that team was going to score on our defense that late in the half was if we turned the ball over that deep in our territory. the risk was not worth the potential reward.

Just so I'm clear on what you're proposing, if we pass inside our 30 it should only be a 20+ yard pass down field, given our current QB? As far as the risk not being worth it, I completely agree game situation dictates whether or not it's worth the risk and in this case (against a FCS team our D is smothering) I'm going to have to disagree that the risk was too high for any pass play other than a deep ball.

After stepping back and thinking about it, the team played well overall. I believe the the best indicator of performance is the first half. We moved the ball at will up and down the field after the first drive. I can name at least 4 of BJ's interceptions in exactly the same situation. At least this one didn't cost us the game.

If the coaching staff is content with just running out the clock there I think it changes the entire complexion of what they are trying to accomplish and we completely destroy UT-C. We go into the loocker room up 21-3. One more score and you can get the twos more work for more than just a couple of series.

The defense was stifling. The OL always needs time to gel. Several of those kids on OL were playing in their first game let alone the first time playing together. They will come around. Murray has proven, for 3 years already, that he is capable. BJ, when given time is a good QB that now has legit weapons. I have confidence in the players.

My concerns are with Fitch in certain situations (like red zone and 3rd down) and sometimes with Holtz game management and clock management. In close games a coaches decisions can lose games for you or, depending on execution, win games. These 2 guys make me nervous and the defense should keep us in every game.

My only concerns really are OL pass blocking and some of the dumb ass things that Holtz does. The OL will come along and play better each game.

When we were up 21-3 with less than 2 minutes to go, around on own 20, please Skip, just run the clock out and stop being cute. If he was trying to work on the 2 minute drill in a live situation there, OK, fine. Then Fitch's playcalling there is ridiculous. Run some quick 7 to 10 yard outs where you don't burn time and the receiver catches it and gets out of bounds quickly or it goes incomplete. Both the game management and play call were idiotic in that situation. BJ should not have been in that situation in the first place.

You've been harping on this so I figured I would mention a post game interview over on Rivals I think it was. Holtz, or it might have been Fitch, basically said that wasn't the play called and BJ was trying to force something and he knows he shouldn't have done that...

was the play called a pass? Fitch doesn't learn. it happened against UF. pass play called inside our 20 with under 2 to play. picked and they scored a TD. it happened against WVU. pass play called inside our 20 with under 2 to play. picked and they scored a TD. same with western kentucky. inside 20 under 2 to play picked. didn't cost us though. Fitch isn't smart enough to realize we don't have peyton manning or tom brady back there. he isn't smart enough to realize it is far too risky to think we can drive length of the field with under 2 to play.

Insanity- doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

if it was a pass play called then it was their fault regardless of whether or not they take the responsibility.

Pretty sure you yourself had suggested a safer pass to the side/flat in another thread and I think that's what they had called. Are you suggesting that they not throw the ball at all when behind their 20 or 30? That would probably limit things quite a bit and would be conservative to the extreme. Even not throwing the ball at all when behind their 20 or 30 in the last 2 min of the first half, especially against a FCS team our D is smothering, is too conservative, in my opinion.

After stepping back and thinking about it, the team played well overall. I believe the the best indicator of performance is the first half. We moved the ball at will up and down the field after the first drive. I can name at least 4 of BJ's interceptions in exactly the same situation. At least this one didn't cost us the game.

If the coaching staff is content with just running out the clock there I think it changes the entire complexion of what they are trying to accomplish and we completely destroy UT-C. We go into the loocker room up 21-3. One more score and you can get the twos more work for more than just a couple of series.

The defense was stifling. The OL always needs time to gel. Several of those kids on OL were playing in their first game let alone the first time playing together. They will come around. Murray has proven, for 3 years already, that he is capable. BJ, when given time is a good QB that now has legit weapons. I have confidence in the players.

My concerns are with Fitch in certain situations (like red zone and 3rd down) and sometimes with Holtz game management and clock management. In close games a coaches decisions can lose games for you or, depending on execution, win games. These 2 guys make me nervous and the defense should keep us in every game.

My only concerns really are OL pass blocking and some of the dumb ass things that Holtz does. The OL will come along and play better each game.

When we were up 21-3 with less than 2 minutes to go, around on own 20, please Skip, just run the clock out and stop being cute. If he was trying to work on the 2 minute drill in a live situation there, OK, fine. Then Fitch's playcalling there is ridiculous. Run some quick 7 to 10 yard outs where you don't burn time and the receiver catches it and gets out of bounds quickly or it goes incomplete. Both the game management and play call were idiotic in that situation. BJ should not have been in that situation in the first place.

You've been harping on this so I figured I would mention a post game interview over on Rivals I think it was. Holtz, or it might have been Fitch, basically said that wasn't the play called and BJ was trying to force something and he knows he shouldn't have done that...

I look forward to see Lamar next season. Maybe he wants to concentrate on school. Maybe he is an ace in the pocket for next season. I am not reading too much in it, the RB field is stacked. Remember that Lamar probably wasn't red shirted because Skip came in to a team with only 2 experienced WR, who were lost to injury and if there were more WR, he most likely would have been red shirted.

i dont think we are saving him for next year

usf needs to win this year and bring in a stud freshman next year

this makes little sense unless lamar is leaving

Yeah I was wondering the same. In the worst case this could mean they don't expect to get one of the top backs in this class and need to save people for next year hoping to pull in a top 2014 back. With 6 or so backs in FL listed in the top 25 for this class (e.g. Tarean Folston, Alex Collins) I would be very disappointed if we couldn't pull one of them in.

Give the Mocs some credit, you could tell how much heart and determination they were playing with... They didn't give up and their motors were constant. That wasn't an FCS team looking to take their lumps and move on to division play, it was a team looking to prove something and it showed. Watch the highlights of our win over FSU and you'll see a bulls team playing with the heart and energy we saw from the Mocs. I was very impressed with the energy and heart their D played with and if they can maintain that in their division they'll do well.

Don't see WV being the Big 12 Champ. Strange that once they're in the Big 12 you see predictions like this, but while in the Big East it was "just" WV, the best the lowly Big East could offer.

^ Haven't seen film of him outisde of that, but looks like an excellent (nasty son of a gun) run blocker and the little pass blocking that's in there looks good to average.

I love how the father of our most important recruit in the 2013 class (we have no one on the roster to adequately fill BJ's shoes after next season) is on here telling you that himself, his son, and other kids they know that are currently going through the recruiting process feel about message board banter and the impact it can have on recruits....and you are telling him it doesn't. Really? Lets remember, these are high school kids we are talking about. The kids we are recruiting now have not even started their senior year of high school yet. Do you remember when you were a junior in high school? How impressionable you were?

Good lord people.

Mr. Woulard, I apologize on behalf of Bulls Nation for some of the posters on here. This is the reason I rarely post on this board. I am mostly on the premium site boards for this very reason.

Now back on topic....lol

How tight is Asiantii with guys like Tony Stevens over there in Orlando? Do you think he can help pull some more central Florida boys over here with him. I have been following recruiting for a long time and I can tell you, just like on the field, the QB is the leader of a recruiting class. They can be very influential. Take note of what a kid with 2 offers, Pete Dinovo, has been able to do pulling kids from Tampa to UCF as an example. It happens all the time.

I know we have Asiantii on board, Jo Jo, and Jeff too. Want to give us some hints as to who could be next?

+1 Hopefully in a new thread, though, so we can get rid of this one.

Mr. Woulard,

I would suggest starting another thread and asking the mod to get rid of this one.

If he keeps at it we'll have to call the Ghost Busters.

Some others,

OMFG step back from your frustration with last season, pride, ego, and whatever else and think about what you are doing for a minute.

You are arguing about your right to post rants about SEC superiority and how meaningless message boards are to recruits ON OUR RECRUITING BOARD with the FATHER of the nation's ELITE 11 MVP QUARTERBACK, in a thread started by HIM for the purpose of positive recruiting discussions for other recruits to review ON OUR RECRUITING BOARD.

Disappointing to say the least....

# 4 : Kids dream of ultimately being in the NFL if they are being advised correctly all things considered its a good chance going to their favorite college and playing early may not happen more than likely . So while there is a sense of pride and bragging rights associated with going to their favorite school it probably will not be a conduit to reaching the ultimate goal of making big money in the NFL and playing the game they love at the highest level...I don't like the idea of being so pro SEC on this board as there may be some who are on the fence about coming to USF and I would hate for you to sway them in another direction . USF dynasty starts now...

Agreed 100%. I felt like I was reading a SEC fan boy board with some of the comments on here.

I didn't see an SEC fan boy board but I did see some reality being doled out as to why it wasn't unthinkable for a high school player to choose an SEC school over USF ... and some reality as to why some would choose USF over an SEC school.

Heck, USF had 5 players drafted in the 2010 draft (tied for the most of any school in the country that year).

Not sure where you got that from but there were numerous schools with more than 5 drafted players that year ... We did have the most from the BE that year.

http://en.wikipedia..../2010_NFL_Draft

Nah, there's a difference between respect and going to that length - disappointed Ghost. If that was a UCFer or UFer coming on here we would have told him to take a hike. When the father of one of our recruits starts a thread to talk about recruting ON OUR RECRUITING BOARD and has to mention how some people are going overboard on SEC, it's gone too far....

I respect the SEC, but we are SOUTH FLORIDA.

We need to find out who these people are and silence them

Agreed. We may not have the tradition - yet - but anyone putting our campus down is misleading people and/or hasn't been there in the last 15 years.

Now what we need are some of you that think you're up for it to take the torch and continue to MAKE tradition!

http://www.gousfbulls.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=7700&ATCLID=204935665

We are SOUTH FLORIDA!!

We've recruited some decent underclassmen, but I don't feel like we're solid at DE or LB.

Pretty sure mr Hargreaves Sr. is not a coach... but i could be wrong...

It would also be a stretch for Mr. Hargreaves Jr to end up as a WR coach for UF.

Sorry for all the confusion there, meant the senior of the two Hargreaves in the context of conversations on this recruiting board....

Not putting words in his mouth as to what he was referring to, but if that is what he was referring to, that's where "joking" in my original statement comes in.

Thanks for your input man.

Wonder who's in line for that job hmmmmm

It was noted in another thread here. Their OC and a GA will handle the receivers.

See Rodney Adams thread.

http://thebullspen.c...odney-adams-wr/

Think it was a joking reference to comments people have made about where Mr. Hargreaves Sr. was going to end up, relative to where III ended up.

Reminds me of TJ.

Your going to have to be more specific. TJ Johnson or Travis Johnson? We are recruiting both. One a WR and one a APB. Personally, I think he looks like TJ, too. The APB one from Island Coast who BTW has 4.31 speed. Just cause we didn't get Benkert, I want this guy , bad.

Meant Taurus Johnson.

We haven't had that combo of speed, moves and mojo since.

Every new WR should watch that highlight reel.

Reminds me of TJ.

this is getting out of hand...id say pull the scholly but we dont need to burn bridges

Nah, this is just to toy with fans - and it's working. Based on what he said, the staff that he's going to committ to would have been secretly told when he actually decided.

same problems then, same problems now.

Exactly, depth.

If we bring anything less than our A game this very well could be the case.

Auburn will be the best defense we have seen in quite awhile and have way more team speed on D than anyone we saw this year.  Their house will be one of the most hostile environments we have played at in quite a while so if they get up early it will really test our character.  [highlight]We didnt get off to a good start at all this year in our first 2 games[/highlight] and this is the kind of game where we must play a complete game from start to finish.  Also other than the WVU game this year we really arent the greatest road team in recent history.   This is the kind of game where i wouldnt be surprised if we won and dominated play (due to match ups) but at the same time i wouldnt be surprised if they won by 2 scores either.  Hopefully we bring our A game and make this a statement game for our program.  

Couldn't agree with you more Steve.  However, please remember that in our first 2 games in 2006 we were starting with a very young team and Matt Grothe was just beginning to get into his comfort zone.  We have almost all of our 2006 team returning.  We've got an awesome RB available now.  We have a very deep defensive core this year.

GO BULLS!!!!!!!

I have been thinking along the same lines, however, the Louisville game showed we were still capable of getting a very solid beating by a good team even at the end of the year. How that happened, and how things will be different or improved can be debated ad infinitum. My concern is whether or not the running game will have improved enough to give us a decent shot, via receiving our Ford and RB-savior (communion is April 14th) or otherwise.

I don't think they should be in the top 25 preseason.  I agree with somewhere between 27-30, however, if we could pull an upset @ Auburn and beat everybody else I could see us moving in the top 20.

??????

With the relatively safe assumption that the BE powers and Auburn do not collapse next year and we are one of their few losses, IF we beat Auburn and everyone else (Did you not mean undefeated?) we would easily be in the top 10, would likely be in the top 5, and might even have a decent shot at going to the NC since we will likely be starting the season between 25 and 30.........

Ah jeez, It's this flu I'm coming down with.

Wind, might I give you my Full and Unwavered apology. I thought you said "I  think there is a higher percent chance that a 5-star guy will perform like a 2-star."

Sorry. I would delete the post, but I spent so much time on it.

When are you going to take the top 25 pics by national ranking from the four, three, and two star ranked players as well and compare the success rates across all four?.........