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Anyone know the difference in USF and Arkansas as it relates to Heath?

 

Here, he's a sub .500 millionaire on indefinite hire.

 

There, he was fired after going 21-14 (82-71 overall) and enjoying his second consecutive invite to the NCAA Tournament.

 

Institutionalized dysfunction in USF Athletics may have claimed Stan Heath.

Are you serious?

Arkansas had a history of winning. They were stupid to fire Heath when they did, but that explains their higher standards. Heath replaced a coach who went 389-169 and went to back-to-back title games, winning one. It's stupid to expect the same results at both schools, and if you don't expect that, then what is your point?

Seth Greenberg was barely over .500 (108-100), against weaker opposition. Paschal's winning percentage at USF was .444 - Heath's is .438. Robert McCullum was a loser who left an already bare cupboard pretty much totally dismantled. You have to go back to Lee Rose and his .606 winning percentage to find a USF coach who was really better than a .500 guy.

 

It's not to far off.  Keep your hands and head inside the car.  It's going to be a wild ride.

 

Go Bulls!

What is it that you know that no one else knows on this board; and how?

Are you legitimate?

 

Obviously he's either having some fun, or is greatly exaggerating some piece of news he does know. There is nothing realistic that could be worth the hype he's giving it.

This season is the first season I've started to question Heath's future with the team. But I'm not even close to saying he should be fired with a losing season this season. Losing seasons this year and next would probably get me there, but it's tough to say. I do know, I'd be thrilled with him getting to the NCAA tournament once every three years. It's going to take a lot more than one appearance in the past 20 years before I come to believe USF has some rightful place among the country's elite. But there has to be a point where Heath is out of chances, and he's a lot closer to that point than he was three years ago.

 

We should go into every season expecting to go 0-12 or 0-<insert number of games here> for every sport.  That way we will never be disappointed with the results of a season. 

Way ahead of you

Getting my prediction in early for the Western Carolina game

Western Carolina

31-17

Tice

McFarland

297

 

31-17 would be an improvement over last season's FCS opponent. I don't like your optimism.

No, sick, the big picture is that a lower-conference team upsetting a bigger-conference team in the NCAA tournament happens every single year and is the exact thing that makes the tournament exciting. That's the "madness" in March Madness. You're the one who doesn't get it. Looking at a single year and making a big deal about it is the exact definition of missing the bigger picture - I'm not sure anyone could come up with a better example if they tried.

I'm still waiting for when the USC AD said anything about FGCU and the Big East.

Haha, with every post slick gives us a new reason to not take his opinion seriously (as if we needed more).

 

 

 

 

Enfield came in and in two years went to the Sweet 16. At FGCU. Previously an assistant. Come to think of it, USF should be checking out whomever hired him there to take over for DW.

Uh, those Eagles that did so well would have been slaughtered in the former Big East. (We all talked about this to death.)

The same conference with Georgetown, who they made history beating? And where's he coaching now? If he can get deep into the tournament with that team I expect he'd do better than Heath has done with USF's level of talent.

 

Winning one game is not the same as competing in a conference. Georgetown was hardly the first major conference team to lose in the tournament to a lesser conference team, did every one of the other winners deserve to be in the bigger conference?

 

Or using your same "logic" - FGCU lost five games in the Atlantic Sun that year ... doesn't any one of those games "prove" they aren't even good enough for the Atlantic Sun?

They were the first 2 seed to lose to a 15 seed. And I'll take the logic of USC's AD over yours, any day.

 

Did I say he wasn't a good coach? Where did the USC AD say that FGCU team belonged in the Big East?

One thing I think we can all agree on: Kent State beat SEC, Big XII and Big East teams en route to that Elite Eight spot, so clearly could have reached the Elite Eight as a member of any one of those conferences that season. It only make sense.

I guess Kent State made it to the Elite 8 despite Heath.

I don't understand. In your previous post, you are saying the reason Heath isn't fired has nothing to do with his performance, and everything to do with Woolard not believing he can find something better. Now you're defending Heath? Which is it?

 

 

Enfield came in and in two years went to the Sweet 16. At FGCU. Previously an assistant. Come to think of it, USF should be checking out whomever hired him there to take over for DW.

Uh, those Eagles that did so well would have been slaughtered in the former Big East. (We all talked about this to death.)

The same conference with Georgetown, who they made history beating? And where's he coaching now? If he can get deep into the tournament with that team I expect he'd do better than Heath has done with USF's level of talent.

 

Winning one game is not the same as competing in a conference. Georgetown was hardly the first major conference team to lose in the tournament to a lesser conference team, did every one of the other winners deserve to be in the bigger conference?

Or using your same "logic" - FGCU lost five games in the Atlantic Sun that year ... doesn't any one of those games "prove" they aren't even good enough for the Atlantic Sun?

What makes it even more laughable is that I don't believe for a single second smazza has watched a single moment of USF basketball this year, unless it was by accident. I question how often he actually watches USF football. His means of communicating doesn't inspire a lot of confidence that he has any clue what he's talking about.

The corpse of John Wooden.

On one hand, I feel sorry for people who fall for these scams - and there must be people who fall for them, or it wouldn't be done so often. On the other hand, I really want to meet one of the people who fall for it, because I just want to know if they're actually as stupid as it would make them seem (trying very hard to not drag UCF into this by suggesting those people must be UCF grads - oops, there I go).

I haven't been able to say I "root" for any team since an Australian friend got confused because, she told me, to root in Australia means to have sex.

 

So this guy writes that USF left for the Big East, leaving UCF behind in the process and thus ending the games between them. Everything about that is totally wrong - he couldn't be more wrong if he tried. Remind me why anyone should take his opinion seriously? I mean, I get why slick does, but what about anyone who knows how to read?

Sigh. Do you always look for nitpicking ways to tear things down? He's wrong on some history, so what? The main point is that these schools had some history and are now in the same conference, playing on a regular basis. Can you try not to be a turd?

 

You just saw something that fit with your UCF-based agenda, and threw out a link without considering whether it was ******* retarded or not. Don't blame me.

<Insert ridiculous, yet not as funny as the poster thinks it is, post>

I think you followed your own directions pretty well. Definitely the least worthwhile post in the thread!

The BCS voters have realized they made a mistake, and replaced Auburn with USF in Monday night's game.

New 75-year lease at RayJay?

Early in the season, 0-12 was looking like a real possibility. The team definitely got better as the season progressed. I'm not saying they were good, but they definitely sucked less. This team was terrible and wasn't going to be any good no matter what kind of offense was run, at least now they have a year of practice doing whatever Taggart has in mind, and can build off that, rather than wasting a year running some other offense so they could win three games instead of two, if they were lucky.

Until they found themselves in 3rd and 20.

I don't know, my sister and her husband, as well as my dad and several of his friends, are Gators, and they all love Meyer still and many have even started following Ohio State a bit (still Gators No. 1 to them, though) since he became the coach there. From their perspective - and I didn't pay enough attention at the time to know how true this is - Meyer actually did a good thing by coming back for one more year when he had the health scare, because leaving so suddenly would have had a horrible effect on the team. Hardly a scientific survey, I'll grant you, but there it is.

In any case, even if it's not true about Meyer, if what Meyer did was burn bridges in Gainesville, then Petrino leaves scorched earth behind him wherever he goes.

So this guy writes that USF left for the Big East, leaving UCF behind in the process and thus ending the games between them. Everything about that is totally wrong - he couldn't be more wrong if he tried. Remind me why anyone should take his opinion seriously? I mean, I get why slick does, but what about anyone who knows how to read?

Ah, good point. That makes more sense.

He wasn't the head coach at Louisville the first time - hardly the same thing.

Petrino in two consecutive offseasons played other job offers into bigger contracts from Louisville ... then left the third offseason. Not to mention, all three places - Louisville, Arkansas, the Falcons - the team was left in shambles by his departure. It's possible to leave in a positive way, Petrino has never shown any concern for doing so.

A quarterback leaving early is nothing at all like that. Get real.

Anyway, I was responding to a comment that suggested Louisville might rehire Petrino. I said they wouldn't. Unless your saying they will, I can't figure out your argument.

 

Petrino will never go back to Louisville. He burned too many bridges there, just like he does everywhere he goes. It says a lot about him that no place he's coached would ever consider rehiring him.

How many coaches can you name that were rehired by schools they left?

Bill Snyder and...?

 

Most coaches wouldn't want to go back to an old job. But you don't think Urban Meyer would be welcome back at Florida? Or Steve Spurrier? Of course they would, in a heart beat.

Petrino was quite a success at both Arkansas and Louisville, but I'm quite sure he is persona non grata at both campuses today despite that. The Atlanta Falcons ownership absolutely hates him. He's a scum bag who has never once left a job on good terms.

Still searching for that validation, eh Mike? I do feel sorry for you, if that satisfies your aim.