windbane

don't get too tired of the name, shoop, they've got another brother coming up, heh...

2006: 18 BCS Teams: 9 Bowl teams: 4 Ranked Opponents

2007: 15 BCS Teams: 5 Bowl teams: 1 Ranked Opponent (Using 2006)

We lose the weight OSU, Va Tech, Wake Forest (twice) provided us. It is imparative the BE win the majority of their OOC games again, because outside of Auburn, Iowa, and possibly Maryland there are very few teams that will add the weight to the schedule that we got in 2006.

those stats could change.  besides, the way people are talking UNC might make a bowl game.  heck, maybe Illinois finally plays like it recruits, too.  I do like that USF plays the toughest OOC team (most likely) in the big east

I think it's worthy to have a discussion on Julmiste being kicked off, but LOB99's tactics on this thread are unnecessary.

It was obviously worthy, people voted. Be careful with censorship.

I voted for 1 considering all we know so far is 1.  Why would I want other players to be kicked off?

I'm not very concerned.  As long as they make the grades to play, heh.

No Big East school played fewer than two games against BCS opposition.

The BE has to play at least 2 games against BCS schools because they have 5 OOC games and only 7 conference games. For mere SOS percentages, to not play at least 2 BCS games would be fatal.

Next year's OOC opposition will be down a bit, Cincy goes from playing Ohio State and VT to playing 1 BCS opponent in Oregon State. UL goes from K State, UK, and Miami to UK and NC State. Rutgers goes from UNC and Illinois to Maryland.

OCC competition will be down this year so playing well is going to be HUGE for the Big East.

Whats even bigger is that USF's game against Auburn is the only OOC game in teh Big East against an opponent who finished the year ranked. USF IS THE FLAG BEARER OF THE LEAGUE THIS YEAR!

Well, cincy obviously has a downgraded schedule which might actually help them get more wins and potentially better bowl (ugh).  However, UL drops K-state which isnt exactly a power and switches miami with nc state which will likely be a downgrade but it's not like miami is awesome right now. Rutgers playing maryland is probably tougher than UNC and Illinois.  Lastly, we upgrade from Kansas to Auburn.  I don't think the big east's schedule is that much easier.  Maybe the other teams' schedules got easier?

Don't worry S. Bien, I believe you.  McKensie might be as good or better than Nicholas as well.  I don't think that insults Nicholas it just says we recruit really good LBs (well, and get a guy with some tough family issues that just happens to live around here).  Nicholas will be an NFL LB but maybe we'll get even better NFL LBs.

Windbane, I don't understand why you think this is a meaningless thread? This is not a condescending question, but how long have you been following USF football?

Every year we have guys kicked off for various issues, I've been watching it happen since '99. The thing that is interesting to me is that they are more often than not "quality" players. Jon Chivas being the earliest I can recall and the list goes on.

The reason it is worth talking about is because it says something about the integrity of our PROGRAM. CJL does not care WHO you are, you cross the line you are out. When I was younger I hated this but now I understand why it HAS to be done.

Please let us never minimalize this issue.

because I find it useless to predict how many players will be kicked off based on just 1 guy.  We lost 2 last year?  How many each year before?  I see people predicting some mighty high numbers so I'm curious why having to kick players off the team is a good thing.  I think it insults the players left on the team to have a poll about how many won't be on the team.  

Sagarin had the Big East ranked only behind the SEC in the final 2006 conference standings. Scheduling plays a big part of that success. Unlike the rest of the BCS conferences, the Big East schools tried to schedule more competitively. During the same two seasons as analyzed with the ACC (2005/2006) the Big East opponents included 12 I-AA, 27 non-BCS and 33 BCS schools. Compared to the ACC (37%), the Big East played 46% of its games against BCS conference opponents. No Big East school played fewer than two games against BCS opposition. More impressively both Louisville and Syracuse have scheduled three games each season (2005 and 2006) against BCS schools. No other schools from BCS conferences can match that feat.

Toughest OOC scheduling and 2nd in sagarin rankings.  Go figure.

I dunno, the videos on rivals weren't that impressive.  The best, to me, was Hester, but there were also more of him.  They also showed him returning punts so he might compete with Johnson and whoever else for that job.  He had 1 really nice return in a video.  4 returning starters with 3 freshmen and hester a sophmore should make for an interesting spring and start to the season.  then there's denson, hill, and others.  geez.  

great...  

I wasn't allowed to have a car on campus my freshman year either. The point is that you stay on campus, come to love campus, enjoy all the things campus has to offer. If you find yourself wanting to do things that aren't on- or near- campus, then the university is really letting you down insofar as activity options goes.

I would have chosen a different college based on that.  I have family to visit and friends out of town to visit.  I don't need to be limited to staying on campus.  If I want to go downtown I don't want to depend on anyone to give me a ride.

Nobody has or needs a car in Ann Arbor, Manhattan (Kansas), College Station, Ames, Bloomington, etc.

well, i guess they all take taxis or can afford plane tickets.  either that or they have no out of town family and/or friends.  

I agree that dining hall costs are absurd, but they have always been that way and they serve a vital social function. Eating in a dining hall a) means someone else makes the food, leaving more time in your day for studying (ha) or socializing and means you're eating in a large room with lots of people, which opens doors for social interaction, etc.

I get instant meals that costs less and take less time to get (no traveling, even if it is just walking on campus).  If i cook something it probably takes the same amount of time and I can watch tv, study, etc at the same time.

The problem with the status quo is it pretty much creates an on-campus anti-ghetto whereas students who like to drink live off-campus and those who don't live in the dorms. USF really needs to work on promoting the college experience as through living on campus, or at least they need to once they build more rooms. The inconveniences of living on-campus are part of the learning process; learning to get along with other people, occasionally skirt the rules, et cetera.

I don't drink, but I have many friends that got drunk while living on campus.  I don't need to learn to be inconvenienced.  I've lived with 3 roommates at several different locations and have had to get along with them.  As for "skirting the rules," my roommate has a pet and isnt supposed to, heh.

I think it's awesome that you're a huge fan, and we need more kids like you. But you bring up Penn State, and I want everyone to think about how quickly Penn State sold out its Outback Bowl allotment in a year when school ticket sales were down for nearly every non-BCS bowl. The experience of living on-campus, in a remote area, creates an attachment that lasts for a LIFETIME. The people you're forced into living arrangements with become your friends... for a LIFETIME. I'm not saying this doesn't happen at USF, because it does. I'm saying it becomes an event, or a rite of passage.

you could be right that forcing people to live on campus would promote more loyalty to USF, but I personally would have gone elsewhere.  

I'm glad you left UF, but I'm hoping that had you stayed there and graduated, you'd have become a Gator fan. I hate Gator Fan, but if there is any one truth I hold onto, it's that no university ever comes before your undergraduate alma mater.

interesting thing about UF is I lived off-campus my first year there, too.  They seem to be doing fine with their fan base  

did anyone get kicked off last year besides chambers?  I'm just not understanding this great worry.

The poll is how many will be forced to leave against their will.

how many in the history of USF have there been?

also, technically, he smoked his way off the team because the rule was set and he knew the consequences.  it's not like Leavitt suddenly decided he didn't like him and kicked him off.

useless poll and how do you people vote for 4 or 5?  something we don't know about yet?

I don't consider people that don't qualify initially to have been on the team yet, so I'm not sure why some of you expect so many people to be kicked off the team.

I am consistently amazed by the lack of knowledge displayed on this website.

I'm consistently amazed at your lack of respect for other people.  Don't lump other people in with Smazza.  You don't exactly have all the answers.

I don't understand what we are worried about.  No one on the national level knows about USF.  There are 3 hugely popular schools in FL.  When we continue to win games we'll get more recognition.  Being ranked will help a lot.  It's already started the last few seasons with big wins and bowl games.

I am assuming that we can just slide Chris Robinson to DE now.

yeah, with moffitt, spires, and mompremier at LB, perhaps.  Even more important for McKensie hardship waiver, not that it has anything to do with needing depth.  Fonua is already enrolled so maybe he'll be ready.  is claude davis going to qualify?  and are some redshirts from next year ready to play DE?

ugh, we were finally building nice depth...

I'd rather the money be spent on football, too, but at least they will make the tournament.  It would be sad to lose him.

sounds good to me.  will be interesting with him and grothe's old HS WR in 2008.

what we need to do is blow them out and get everyone ready for a auburn.  i dont think the team will look past the FIRST GAME of the season with the players fighting for playing time.  the vets will remember last year's start as well.  

Watch out for FIU.  They will be right behind USF soon.  Not sold on FAU yet, but FIU is getting a strong team together.

wasnt FIU 0-12 this year and FAU 5-7....sort of a switch from last year...they are on the same page IMO

I think FIU is getting the better recruits out of the two.  Keep in mind we only beat them by 1 point, and they lost half of their starters after the brawl with Miami.  Just my opinion, but I think they'll be better than FAU in a few years.  FIU beat them 52-6 the year before.  USF is making leaps and bounds, but FIU impressed me when they played us.

FIU didn't impress me.  We were terrible that game.

I personally find the USF license plates to be ugly.

It will be interesting to see how this works out. We are unique compared to all other BCS schools... we're the only true commuter school among them.

TRUE commuter school? Per CJL, we have more on-campus housing than FSU. A better term would be the only perceived commuter school.

I'm not sure it's the commuter school thing that gets me. I hope we keep building dorms. We need a lot more of them.

A school like UC requires all first-year students to live on-campus unless they have a special exemption to stay at home with their parents. At most residential universities, that applies to sophomores too... even Ohio State. It's not the commuter nature of USF that irks me to a degree, it's how many first-year students live with friends in apartments. That's really no different than commuting. Most of them drive to campus anyway.

If you drive to campus, you're a commuter student, in my mind, and if you drive to class you're not getting the college experience -- and part of that experience is being a MEMBER of the campus and thus the spirit for the university grows from within.

I hope that one day the university can grow its on-campus residence hall capacity so we can get on board with a similar policy. There's a great deal lost when you don't live in a residence hall for at least a year. It defines the college experience. Remove the experience and it's just a degree, and if it's just a degree the intangibles like support for athletic teams disappear.

Well, I have to disagree here.  I've never lived in a dorm (5th year of college).  They are over-cramped and over-priced.  Also, aren't you also required  to buy an over-priced meal plan that no one (that I know of) ever fully uses anyway?  I went to UF for a year, but even if I lived on campus I would not have been a Gator fan.  I have been at USF for 4 years and lived at 2 different places off campus and am now a major USF fan.  I'm only a few minutes away from campus.  I don't really care if I'm called a commuter.  I buy the parking pass, I go to class, and I'm about to be a USF alum.  What difference does it make that I didn't overpay for a dorm and meal plan?  Maybe that's just me.

Also, I know Penn State doesn't even allow underclassmen to have cars.  I sure as hell wouldn't want to go there.  I like to be able to go anywhere I want, including road games and to parties on other Florida campuses.  Disney World is nice as well.  Does a shuttle go to busch gardens?  maybe it does...whatever.

awesome.  perhaps a hardship waiver away from the big east title.