i disagree with guest harvey jones usf will get it done with coach mac in three years we will be respectable in the middle of the pack in the NBE that is enough to go NIT and posibly dancing as well. vatech will be lower tier ACC for the next 3-5 years as long as seth is the coach if they go dancing in the next 5 years i will buy any takers who are signed board members their favorite six pack. go bulls!