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    Espn has us going to the Meineke Car Care vs GT

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    The Gator Bowl gets the 1st choice after the BCS.  It doesn't automatically go to the 2nd place team.

    I believe the Insight gets the next choice then the Car Care Bowl.

    Yep, that's correct.  And the Insight Bowl (in Phoenix) realizes that they're more likely to get fans from a cold weather school (such as Rutgers) than from a warm weather school such as us.  Therefore, they will take Rutgers, leaving us the chance of going to Charlotte.  Truth be told, I think we will bring more fans to Charlotte (within driving distance) than Phoenix.  

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    My Breakdown of Bowl chances

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    Actually, if I remember correctly, the Gator Bowl gets the Big East #2 team, not a pick of their choice.  If that is correct, it could be us even with one more loss.

    Nope.  They get the next pick (either from the Big East or Notre Dame), and cannot pick a team more than one game behind the highest available team from the conference.  Since we would be 5-2 in conference (same record as Louisville), they would be free to choose the Cardinals.  It's really a no-brainer.  9-2 Louisville will be ranked at least #20.  7-4 USF will hopefully still be receiving votes, but will not be in the top 25.  The only way Louisville's not going to Jacksonville is if Notre Dame stumbles between now and the end of the season.  

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    My Breakdown of Bowl chances

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    I do not see how we get the Gator Bowl,   If they have to choose between Us and Lville we will not get picked...

    You can bank on USF not going to the Gator Bowl this year.  If we don't win the Big East, we're 7-4 and unranked.  Meanwhile, Louisville is 9-2 and probably in the top 20.  No way in hell USF gets picked over them.  

    USFFan

    My Breakdown of Bowl chances

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    You must mean 20-30K VaTech fans.  We barely get that many for a home game.  I would say at most 5K, but I would be one of them.

    I hope like hell we'd bring more than 5K to our first ever bowl game (remembering ~50K for our first ever game).  It would send a message to bowls that we would travel well.

    In fact, I would say that we had better bring >10K to any game we play in if we want to be playing in big bowl games in the future...

    USFFan

    Oracle: On Campus Stadium Debate!!!

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    News flash for Tony "I Love Penn State!" Marquis: Most of the schools in the Top 25 aren't in cities that have an NFL team. Let's see...

    1. USC - Los Angeles - NO

    2. Texas - Austin - NO

    3. Virginia Tech - Blacksburg - NO

    4. Georgia - Athens - NO

    5. Alabama - Tuscaloosa - NO

    6. Miami - Miami - YES (use another off-campus stadium)

    7. LSU - Baton Rouge - NO (but it's good enough for the Saints this year)

    8. UCLA - Los Angeles - NO

    9. Notre Dame - South Bend - NO

    10. Florida State - Tallahassee - NO

    11. Penn State - State College - NO

    12. Ohio State - Columbus - NO

    13. Boston College - Boston - YES (on-campus stadium)

    14. Oregon - Eugene - NO

    15. Wisconsin - Madison - NO

    16. Florida - Gainesville - NO

    17. Texas Tech - Lubbock - NO

    18. West Virginia - Morgantown - NO

    19. Auburn - Auburn - NO

    20. TCU - Fort Worth - NO (the Cowboys don't count in this situation)

    21. Northwestern - Evanston - YES (I'll count the Bears - on-campus stadium)

    22. Fresno State - Fresno - NO

    23. Tennessee - Knoxville - NO

    24. California - Berkeley - NO

    25. Michigan - Ann Arbor - NO

    Let's see, that's three out of 25, and if you want to get really lenient with TCU, then it's four out of 25. No wonder they all have on-campus stadiums. Otherwise the city wouldn't need one at all.

    The real question is how many schools in NFL cities went ahead and built themselves a new stadium after an NFL stadium went up? SMU and Minnesota for sure, and maybe Houston. That's it.

    Not to be a stickler, but the Patriots don't play in Boston, they play in Foxboro, which is more than 30 miles away from Boston.  Evanston's not exactly down the street from Soldier Field, either.  

    Also FYI, University of Minnesota plays in the Metrodome.  Oh, and Houston's Robertson Stadium (which is a piece of crap, by the way), is older than Reliant Stadium (not sure about the Astrodome).

    More evidence that supports the original thesis.  Not that I expect that to stop the weekly flogging of this dead horse...

    USFFan

    "Big (L)east Conference looking like a BCS jo

    in USF South Florida Bulls Athletics

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    I saw this one the other day.  A couple of points...

    Does this guy think he's breaking new ground?  This has been rehashed more often than the CIA leak probe or the Natalee Holloway disappearance.  What purpose does this article serve?  

    Second, for the love of Pete, this season is only half over.  If West Virginia finishes the season at 10-1, with their only loss to #3 Virginia Tech, they'll likely end up somewhere around the top 10.  If Louisville wins out, they'll probably end up in the #15 area.  Meanwhile, it's not unthinkable that both WVU AND Louisville could be ranked above the Big Ten champion once this season is over.  Will the author be ripping the Big Ten if that happens?  

    Finally, if you take just about any conference and rip out their top three teams, they'd be in big trouble.  No USC, UCLA and Oregon and the Pac 10 is left with #25 Cal.  Take Texas and Texas Tech away from the Big XII and they have no ranked teams.  Hell, take Miami, Virginia Tech and Boston College out of the ACC and they're left with #11 FSU and #23 Virginia.  

    This is a subject that will be harped on every year even though it won't (and shouldn't) be judged until the Big East is given a chance to recover from losing three of the top 13 teams in the country.  

    USFFan

    Debt is PAID!

    in State of Florida College Athletics

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    The REALITY of the situation is that UCF is poised to go to a BOWL game.  Something USF hasn't sniffed yet.  They got close one time but UCF also got close years earlier.  So, we are just fine where we are.

    Last I checked, USF and UCF were both 3-3 with 5 games remaining.  Kind of hard to make an argument that either team is more "poised to go to a BOWL game" than the other.  

    Now back to your regularly scheduled pissing contest, with the caveat that this really does not belong on this board.  There is a board for this kind of crap, but I don't even have (or want) access to it...

    USFFan

    Stadium on Campus

    in USF South Florida Bulls Athletics

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    Wow.  14 pages of posts of everybody talking but nobody listening.  It's pretty clear that cee is convinced that an on campus stadium has to be our highest priority.  Explaining reasons why you think it shouldn't is of no concern to him/her.  Meanwhile, cee, it's not apathy if people don't believe in it.  I think most believe a well built on campus stadium would be nice, but that it could/should only be considered if and when we've addressed other concerns (like the poor baseball and softball facilities).  

    Meanwhile, I don't recall if it was Joe or cee who made the comment that using the argument that the students can't be bothered to walk from Beta Hall to the Sun Dome isn't a valid comparison because the team wasn't very good.  Whoever it was, do you realize that THAT is the root of the problem?  If we'd had an on campus stadium this past season but were 4-6 heading into the final game, would it have been acceptable not to show up because the team's "just not that good?"  

    As for my own opinion, I personally don't think that we need an on campus stadium.  If we had an extra $150MM sitting around, I'd use it to revamp our olympic sports facilities, upgrade the SunDome, build an indoor practice facility with both grass and artificial turf, upgrade our pay scale for coaches so that we can retain the best staff and maybe investigate ways of building school spirit amongst the apathetic student body.  If the students aren't sufficiently motivated to go to free football games at RJS knowing that they're able to watch BCS caliber football, then they're not going to be motivated to become active alumni willing to donate to further build the program.  

    USFFan

    The Orange Bowl (you can choose more than one)

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    I wouldn't trade stadiums with them, but I'd trade crowds in a heartbeat.  

    Student section standing for 60 minutes (and they would have stayed if we made a game of it), the Star Wars music every time the defense takes the field with the fans waving the U.  On third and long, you have no chance to use a snapcount out of the shotgun.  Yes, we're not talking the most polished group of fans, but they were passionate and loud.  Between the horrid conditions and the loud crowd, it's one of the best home-field advantages I've seen.  For their sake I hope they don't move to JRS, which is a great place to watch a game, but they would lose a big part of that advantage.  That place works for them, its rough and tumble. like the Hurricanes reputation.

    Their mascot sure did a great job of getting the crowd involved in chanting C-A-N-E-S CANES, including a nice build-up to the chant.  

    They also did a decent job with yelling "first down."  Now I know how a visitor feels with the McDonald's jingle at RJS...

    USFFan

    Dear Matt Grothe,

    in USF South Florida Bulls Athletics

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    if we do manage to get into a BCS bowl, and that is a long shot, it won't be because PJ played us into it.  It will be because the D and our backs made up for our receiver's and QB's ineffectiveness.

    Amarri Jackson sure looked pretty effective against Louisville.  If we do manage to get into a BCS bowl, nobody's going to be whining about PJ every week.  Over time, that guy will become like Radenko Dobras, an icon of USF reaching the promised land for the first time.  Maybe not instantly, but over time...

    USFFan

    My Letter to Espn

    in USF South Florida Bulls Athletics

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    I Went to ESPN, and followed the contact us ESPN/TV people and filled out a form and sent the following letter... Yes I know they do not get a rat's A** about me or my letter but it did make me feel good!

    ESPN-

    Are you kidding me.... "360 internet" ******** is the only option for a Big East game? You have 11 games on 10/15 on Game plan and not one of them is USF-PITT?  13th largest TV market is regulated to internet?  I would pay $20 dollars for game plan game and so would many others!   If your goal is to alienate the Big East fans and screw them over like most media outlets then your mission has been accomplished! I would hope you would rectify this situation, but I know there is another market out there for the mighty ESPN moguls to get a monopoly on so HAVE AT IT!(internet broadcast)   My only hope here is that when basketball season starts the number 1 conference in America (Big East) finds someway to screw you over!  

    Boy I just want to hit something! Please feel free to e-mail them...

    I'm not usually one who nitpicks about spelling and grammar on a message board, but if you're going to send a letter or an email to a company and want to be taken seriously, you probably ought to have somebody proofread it first.  May I suggest that you look up the definitions of "regulated" and "relegated?"  

    I know, now I'm chasing away T-man...

    USFFan

    Dear Matt Grothe,

    in USF South Florida Bulls Athletics

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    'Fan that is not  a fair comparison.

    Sure it is.  Comparing the numbers, Julmiste played about the same as Weatherford did against the same defense, only Julmiste did it in the Orange Bowl instead of at RJS.  

    I know you've repeated your claims that Julmiste overthrew every receiver, but let's remember that he wasn't exactly sitting back there with all night to calmly throw the ball.  He won't be rushed like that the rest of this year.  Meanwhile, he had players dropping balls on him and I'm not convinced we our game plan (which appeared to resemble the Raiders "vertical game" approach) was the right one for Miami.  We needed more things like screens to Hall in the flat or short, crossing timing routes instead of deep balls down the middle.  

    There's an old saying that the QB gets too much of the credit when a team wins and too much of the blame when a team loses.  Seems to me we're quick to play the blame game but pretty stingy with the credit.  I stand by my assertion that if PJ manages to QB us into a BCS game, people will be singing his praises afterward.  

    USFFan

    USF attendance @ Miami.

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    I've combed through some of the threads on here and haven't found a final tally of USF attendees at Miami. I'm sure this is a pretty difficult stat to count since some people bought tix through the OB or didn't even wear USF gear.

    I think we had a good 6K USF fans there. Would anyone happen to  know of an official count?

    It would be practically impossible to know the exact count since many USF fans (myself included) did not buy our tickets through USF.  

    Maybe a better gauge would be to look at the attendance figures of the USF game vs. the Colorado game.  While I can't find those exact figures online (somebody who's better at searching these things surely can), they announced over 58,000 for the USF game (in a freaking monsoon), and I recall reading somewhere that there were 52,000 fans there on a sunny Saturday afternoon when they played Colorado.  Seems to me USF was probably good for about 6,000 fans.

    USFFan

    was it just me........

    in USF South Florida Bulls Athletics

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    As the saying goes, it's our job to stop them.  We did, letting us be secure in knowing that we really did beat the spread, and not just because they didn't try.  

    As to whether this "will be remembered in 2009," none of the players who participated in this game will be in uniform in 2009.  For all we know, neither coach will be there.  

    USFFan

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