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2 minutes ago, Bull Dozer said:

The big games in season when they were still trying to compete for a conference title were probably bigger too. Seeing as a chance at the playoffs were still on the line.... Also it's at best the 6th biggest  considering the majority of the roster had played 2 playoff games and a national title game. Then also conference title games with playoffs on the line. Not to mention that little rivalry against that team in Gainesville. 

 

Basically most of these kids probably aren't that Jazzed about playing a G-5 team in a bowl... 

So the 6th biggest game out of an average of 30 something ish games that most players have played in is low? That is still a big game by my count... Maybe you should just admit Houston was a better team lol FSU was very one dimensional last year, and Houston was outstanding vs the run, having 2 of the best linebackers in the country. It was no flike 

You probably think that the Carolina Panthers mailed the Super Bowl in too don't you? They looked completely flat vs the Broncos, and you could say they looked disinterested. Cam Newton was quiet, frustrated, and really was not himself at all. But its probably because they got beat by a better team. Its hard to get energy when the first play you're getting stuffed in the backfield for a 3 yard loss and it keeps happening

3 minutes ago, Bull Dozer said:

The biggest game for a team fresh off a national title and playoff appearance? Last season was definitely a disappointment for most of the kids on that roster..... I mean unless you want to say playing the AAC champ in a non playoff game is as big as a semi final or national title game.... 

Sorry, SECOND* biggest game of their lives

3 hours ago, Bull Dozer said:

No bouncing here. FSU came out unmotivated and was down to their 3rd string QB by the end of the game.  Houston came out and played like it was the biggest game of their season and FSU just sort of went through the motions.

As for our game it will take a bit of luck to beat them. They're more talented top to bottom and it's early in the season so motivation shouldn't be an issue for FSU.  We've got a ton of talent on our team but I'm not delusional and think we match FSU in that aspect (especially on depth).  We're going to have to execute at a high level for 4 quarters and hope we catch some breaks along the way.... 

 

You insist that FSU was unmotivated for the Peach Bowl... I cannot comprehend what in the world makes you believe this and you have zero backing on this belief. It was probably the biggest game of these kids lives. Houston flat out whooped them. Accept it dude. Yes FSU was having QB issues, I'll give you that. What I am not giving you is the fact that their offense has ALWAYS been based on the run and they had no line injuries and Cook could not get a single run over 4 yards besides one lone 8 yarder. The Houston line pushed them around. FSU isn't a team full of football gods man, get off their balls

11 minutes ago, Bull Dozer said:

Yup, believe it or not teams don't always show up in bowl games even teams loaded with NFL hopefuls. I could tell right away that Houston was winning that game as FSU was completely flat coming out in that game. Also, multiple years of game tape >>>>> one bowl game for evaluation. FSU didn't want to be there it was pretty obvious IMO. Also why does Houston get a pass for Greg Ward being out but no such quarter is given to FSU in the bowl game? Houston is a very good team but that FSU game was hardly what you're making it out to be. 

Good point, but FSU has always been centered around Dalvin cook, and the dude had 33 yards on 18 carries. That is 1.8 ypc. Houston's offense is centered around Greg Ward throwing or running the ball himself. And you could tell that Houston was going to win right away because they were a better team. I doubt that many other teams would have went in there and beat FSU. Look, I'm not saying Houston is a juggernaught. I am simply saying they are better than us at this point in time. We really have no basis to say otherwise.

5 hours ago, PCBull14 said:

What does that have to do with them having less returning starters then us?

They will not romp us, I could see them losing a conference game. I could see them not making the title game as well. They're super young in the secondary. I'm not even sure they return one starter back there. 

When will we learn to stop using bowl games as a barometer for the next season. 

This is why I don't trust much of what you say. Their corner Brandon Wilson may be just as good, if not better than William Jackson, who just happens to be a first round pick. They lost their game vs UConn because Greg Ward was out, nothing more. And they still have a fantastic bunch of WRs, very comparable to our depth at WR. RB Duke Catalon is a pretty good looking back. He's no Marlon Mack, but still good. And as for FSU not being interested in the bowl game? Yeah, that's what it was. A bunch of NFL hopefuls are just mailing it in on the biggest stage of the year, where scouts are going to be really looking. Come up with a better excuse next time.

And sorry PCBull, that reply was kind of directed at everybody, not just you lol

3 hours ago, BullsandBills95 said:

Is it true Joey Knight planted that misspelled letter to the big 12 to shame USF into being demoted to the WAC. Thx. 

LOL YOUR REP IS TOO FUNNY!!  Has to be a TBP record

When they romp the AAC including us in the AAC championship game, I really wont want to say I told you so, but I guess I will

50 minutes ago, PCBull14 said:

We have more returning starters then Houston. It's common knowledge. 

Houston has one of the lowest number of returning starters in the AAC. No made up stories like B12 expansion...just straight truth. 

4 hours ago, usfbullrider said:

I havent been to any practices but coaches seem to have faith in him(livingstone) i think he might have a bull shark jersey by now.  The hole left by Eric Lee maybe not so huge on that side if he pans out.  Good thing he choose us over Uconn.  We dont have a lot of proven guys at DE overall though.  I think Mike Love and Josh Black can be good if healthy though.  I wonder if they will breakthrough this year.

Coach speak will always praise the weakest starter on the unit. One position I forget to mention was TE, where I also believe that we aren't as strong as many on here believe. I know Kano Dillon is a physical freak, and Wilcox is pushing for playing time too, but I still don't think they are as good as  other TE's in the league. Also, CaliBull stating that we have more depth and talent returning than Houston is pure homerism. I know as a whole this post was pretty negative, but I am still buying into the hype this year. I believe in a 10-11 win team when its all said and done. But lets not fool ourselves and think everything is perfect.

That actually sounds a lot better

I'd personally rather slay giants like FSU and kill it in the OOC slate every year than a conference championship. I want the state championship baby! Beat FSU! Beat UCF!

Oh, and for being such a highly ranked recruit, and still showing up on the roster, but never being on the depth chart? Jimmy Bayes. Where is that guy?

I always liked D'Ernest Johnson returning kicks. He may not be as explosive, but he always seems to be mr. reliable for us (not fumbling) and always falls forward. So I very much agree with what you guys are saying about Adams only getting kick return duty in big games. The assessment on the RBs is good. I root for Tice, but as a player, he isn't as naturally talented as the other two.

OL- I am still pleasantly surprised that Glen Bethel isn't taking the RT spot over Atterbury, or the LG over Ruff, as he was a very highly touted G from junior college. I know recruiting rankings aren't everything, but when you are highly touted out of JC, that usually means you are proven to be good at the collegiate level, and our other guys are just proving to be even better. So I will take this as a plus that we have some serious depth, rather than Bethel not putting out.

DL- I could be very pleased with any combo of Senat, Bronson, Awoleke, and Hector starting. Getting Awoleke back was so big for us this year. I am not as excited about the DE's. That is my pick for our weakest spot this year, but hopefully Tramal Ivy will get here soon, and the unit as a whole will prove me wrong.

CB- All I need to say about the depth here is when Johnny Ward is 5th on the depth chart, you KNOW you're good. I would be A-ok with him starting if we didn't have so much talent elsewhere.

S- Again, Devin Abraham is a proven safety, and is a backup while a redshirt freshman is playing even better in Jaymon Thomas? This excites me, knowing we have so much depth.

1 hour ago, Triple B said:

If they were in a P5 they wouldn't have the exact same credentials ...

https://forums.rivals.com/threads/dalvin-cook-200-yards-vs-houston-over-under.369197/page-2

If anybody dislikes FSU fans as much as I do, this will REALLY have you on the floor laughing. Dalvin Cook finished with 33 yards on 18 carries. That is 1.8 ypc. The comments on this page are pure gold. If you want to see his play during the game to top it off, here you go

I would argue that the AAC slate is just as tough as the ACC's minus Clemson. Not so sure what else they need to prove? As a conference, the AAC was 6-4 vs the ACC, and Houston beat 4 ranked teams.  They also beat the second best team in the ACC by a lot. I'm confused what you mean by that Triple B?

I just need to emphasize again that if Houston was in a P5 conference this year with the EXACT SAME credentials, they would be a top 5 team going into the season. They have a 50 / 50 shot week 1, because Oklahoma is equally as good.

12 hours ago, BullyPulpit said:

I'm not suggesting that either outcome is likely (less than a 1% chance of both happening), but, if we have a miracle season and they do as well, we will have to beat them in Houston. I would love an undefeated USF to host a one loss Houston team that beat OU and UofL. 

Less than 1% chance for Houston to beat Oklahoma and Louisville?? Do you know what you're saying? You are saying if Houston had more than 100 chances to beat both teams, they would fail every time. You are crazy, and clearly never saw Greg Ward, those crazy good receivers, and much of their returning defense play. I don't know if you were paying attention last year, but Houston will be a harder game than FSU. That was in no way a fluke. Houston IS 100% better than FSU. Period.

12 hours ago, BullyPulpit said:

This system virtually guarantees that an undefeated USF will not host the AAC Championship game against an undefeated Houston, as they will start out with too large of an advantage in the polls and public perception for us to overcome. Also, with OOC games against Oklahoma and Louisville, an undefeated Houston might be in the Top 4 if we played them. 

I would be ok with that. I actually would LOVE to see undefeated USF vs undefeated Houston. And you might be right about not being able to jump Houston, but I think a lot of it comes down to how well Oklahoma and Florida St do, plus by how much each of us is beating their teams. I think that factors in more than who is ranked higher pre season. People will pay more attention to detail once we show that we are worthy of paying attention to

2 hours ago, TallyBull said:

 

Saying a decision 'may take until December' basically gives no information at all, because it acknowledges that it could be before or after that, or also never at all

Just now, BullsandBills95 said:

I don't care if people dislike me. I love USF. I love the football program. But how anyone can blame a reporter for something a school did wrong is beyond me.

No one is blaming the reporter brother. I think most of the hate is going towards Martin, at least from what I see. I think Joey Knight tries to be a decent writer for USF, but I am not a big fan of his articles either. Like JTrue said, I just don't feel like I ever get any insight out of whats going on with USF from him like I do with other writers.

2 minutes ago, Dogma said:

Which comes first:

100 pages or BulsandBills getting -100 reps?

Sounds like a challenge! I'm going to do my part to make sure the latter happens

I don't really have a beef in this, because I think this whole thread is a sign that men have strange conversations when we don't have football to talk about. But one thing I do know, is being brand new to a message board and typing in all caps is a sure fire way to get everyone to hate you.

4 hours ago, raptorcj said:

Griffin. Pat only wore the number one year. Sterling was a good receiver for us.

exactly what lotsofbull99 said. You can't be the greatest Bull of all time, then leave us for another school

I'm saying week 4 very early in the FSU game. I think Mack has a monster ypc average, but we will use Johnson and Tice a lot still

Idaho is ahead of ECU, SMU, and UCF lmao. Realistically though, ECU is better than that.