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College students are already graduating with outrageous amounts of college debt. It's been long rumored this is going to be the next bubble to burst ala the subprime mortgages. Before you say "oh it will all be done with donor money" .. NAH.. We all know athletic fees can be quite a sum at all major schools, and if you are asking for USF to join those ranks, why would it be any different?

Not to mention, most athletic departments run at a deficit. Studies have shown that 80% of college ath departments actually lose 11 million or more each year. Again, why would USF, with it's paltry crowds and apathetic fan base be much different, especially adding however many millions an OCS would cost?

Personally, I think that playing at Ray J can be an asset in recruiting. 17 year olds see that they can come here and play on the same field as guys like Julio Jones, Cam Newton, and some scrubs on the Bucs- kids don't give a flying fart about tradition. Yeah a 2/3 full 30K OCS might look better than a 1/3 full Ray J, but we're probably splitting hairs at that point. 

I don't look at that aluminum monster in Orlando with envy. Bleacher seats are A$$. They're uncomfortable, and essentially a microwave in the Tampa heat. And there is ALWAYS someone sitting next to you that's either 400 pounds, is carrying some giant diaper bag, holding 8 beers and a large pizza, or all of the above. 

A lot of places have OCS's because they are the only thing around. I'm sure more colleges would leverage a pro stadium if they could, but in Gainesville you dont really have a choice.

The ideas right now for an OCS sound rushed, and I really have no desire to for USF to go into debt over a stadium there's really no huge demand for. They play in a world class facility and while they probably get bent over by the Glazers on the parking/concessions, in the foreseeable future it just doesn't make fiscal sense unless there is some T Boone Pickens type donor out there willing to build this thing on their dime. 

Yeah I haven't been Taggart's biggest supporter, but I'm happy that it's late November and we're still caring about college football

That's pretty much every UConn team ever though isn't it? 

Blatant block in the back there. 

I don't think UConn matches up well w Temple. They're both a similar  (boring) style and Temple is better at it 

I can't even shoot this idea down as crazy. 

I guess the only thing I'd care a little about is people whining about a 9-4 team playing in a major bowl, and if USF got blown out stumping to not give the non B-5 schools any auto bid

It would be wise to lock up the assistants, but if a smaller school came knocking for either as a HC, or a larger school as a OC/DC, it may be difficult to keep them. I'd guess Allen would be more desirable, as there are a lot of younger guys capable of installing a spread O (not discounting what Hope has done)

I'd guess, and I base this on nothing, that Hope would probably be more inclined to leave for an HC job than a big school asst. gig. He's a FL guy, and he may rather stay here than uproot to go to say, Manhattan Kansas for an OC gig. 

I wouldn't hold my breath on Miles if I were Miami. There are a lot of schools that would be willing to pony up more than UM, who, for all the attention they get, typically do not spend a ton on athletics in the modern era. 

I could actually see that being the landing spot for Greg Schiano, unless Rutgers and him get the gang back together. It's a big enough splash hire for UM, but hides the fact that they have no chance in hell of getting a coach over a medium to big time SEC, B10 or B12 school. 

White was Willie's original boy though. The guy he envisioned turning around and handing the ball off 60 times a game in Willie Ball. Not saying White could run this offense, he's about as mobile as my dining room table, but after pulling Flowers' shirt, he proceeded to have him come in and run a couple read-option plays a game, then finally started him occasionally, only to wind up pulling him for White again. By then the season was a lost cause anyway. 

The forum i was on the last few years people were white-hot at Willie for this decision (and doing the same thing to White the season before) 

This was maybe the dumbest coaching move this side of making Aaron Lynch drop back in zone coverage most of the time. 

Not to mention BJ had a season where his most trustworthy receivers were a true freshman walk-on (Stephen Bravo-Brown), a converted QB (Evan Landi and Landi's hair) and half a season of Dontavia Bogan. Holtz also later on in his career had BJ throwing fade routes to Derrick Hopkins, who is about as tall as the garden gnome in my neighbors yard, 

I'm not saying BJ is hands down the best, but he deserved a much better fate than 3 years of Skip

It's worth consideration, absolutely, how much the experience last season helped him in this 1, however, you could also argue it maybe sped up his learning curve by maybe a game or 2 (as he really didnt do or get to do much last season) and that his 2-5th seasons would have been far more valuable than 1-4. I tend to believe what happened in previous seasons has a marginal effect on what happens in the current one, long term injuries aside.

Like Tags or no, there's little argument he mangled the QB situation badly up until this season. 

Don't you wish Tags hadn't wasted Flowers redshirt season now?

Yeah but outside of the BCS and new years games, there aren't many matchups that are THAT much better. 

Maybe the Trop isn't the best stadium, and certainly not meant for football, but that said I'd rather come here and play a game in a big warehouse than play a bowl game in Detroit, Toronto, Mobile, freaking Shreveport, El Paso (the year USF went to the Sun we were ready to go, but just couldn't bring ourselves to travel to northern Mexico) the Citrus Bowl games, Bahamas, Birmingham or Boise.

The only reason the Florida bowls "suck" is that there's so many of them, but compared to every non-BCS bowl game locale, they are paradise.  

who? I was hoping they'd get The Cure to play.

Only reason I'd prefer the "let's see how terrible a sponsor we can get" St. Pete bowl is that traffic in and out of the schitrus bowl is about as fun as being punched in the groin. 

I agree though that I would much rather see USF try their luck against a P5 team. Let's see how they do against a big boy team, beating an Eastern Michigan doesn't really show us, and the nation much about how much they have actually improved 

Exactly- he's getting better and his running makes him a weapon where he can freeze LB's/DB's by himself without having to use play action. You start drawing defenses in, and suddenly the WR's get wide open. Some teams have dared him to throw (I would have) but he's made them pay lately, so right now it's more of a "pick your poison" choice for opposing D Coordinators. 

His progression has been a HUGE reason for this team's rise- that and Allen getting this defense back closer to where it was in the Leavitt days.

I think people "pulling the plug" accounts for some, slightly more choices means people who watch house renovation shows all day probably opt out of ESPN and it's high price if they can also. 

This is likely part of the reason for every big personality at ESPN other than Berman, who for some reason is untouchable, being dropped as well. 

They severely overpaid for a lot of sports to try and basically be a monopoly of everything besides NFL, who (wisely) spreads their product out among networks. ESPN will likely come back next time contracts are up and try to lowball a lot of CFB conferences, and probably NBA and MLB as well. So this could have a trickle down effect of sports leagues going thru lockouts, colleges trying even harder to avoid compensating athletes, etc.

Those are very rare exceptions to the rule, and guys with better throwing arms than QF, and much better vision. I'm not knocking QF, but he's not Wilson or Brees- he's a completely different kind of player. Brees was a pure pocket guy and Wilson was/is mobile but still primarily a pocket QB (and you are dead on about NC ST giving him the boot so they could play their prized recruit Glennon- it's NEVER worked forcing a QB out in favor of him I'd say) 

Flowers is more the mobile QB who uses that mobility and threat to run to help him in the passing game. But make the guy drop back 30 times, stay in the pocket and go thru his progressions and he's in trouble. And again, NOT a knock on QF- he is who he is, and in college that can make for a very good QB, but it doesn't translate to the NFL. QB's with much better arms with the "mobile" playing style have still struggled in the pros (RG3 and Kap for example)

I could be biased, but South Florida rolls off the tongue better than Central Florida does. I think they both want to avoid the "directional" stigma, but at least you have USC to look to if your a bulls fan. Central teams sound like they should be playing Furman and LA Layfayette (and right now that's about UCF's level they should be playing)

Yeah, sorry. Turning into a great college player though- he could get in a camp, but he's gonna have to play a position other than QB

Man Nadelman is freaking NAILS tonight. 

I guess there could be some confusion for west coasters who may think they are talking about U of San Francisco, same colors and everything. Personally I like seeing South Florida better. 

I'd love an alternate uni that spells it out on the helmet, maybe an improved version of the FAU alt helmet. 

Are there any seniors that need some PT? Maybe let Alex Mut get in, he was Skip Holtz' prize recruit

Yeah I think it's time for the subs. Well done 1st team, now get out and stay healthy 

Plus the truth is obviously that Flowers told Taggart to believe in him, then Willie decided it was time to start winning. 

100% HB. That they are back on track, yeah I'm willing to gloss over the past 2 seasons. A good finish to this season and a good start to next, yeah Willie let's sit down and iron out a long term deal, absolutely. I do want to see how he and this team perform when they could likely be the trendy pick to win the conference next year. (If you asked me today, I'd say USF is my pick)

So... For 2 1/2 years the offense sucked donkey azz.. and QF goes "coach- TRUST ME!" and all of the sudden a Rocky montage breaks out?? Really?

That is more believable than Willie's back being against the wall, sharks circling and him basically deciding he'd better try something different?

I'm warming up to him, and more to the staff as a whole.. and no I don't want him fired. But that doesn't erase 2 piss poor seasons to me. They come out and go 4-7 next year, I don't want to hear any excuses.. he's gone. That said, the guy has finally adapted, they are winning, which makes me happy, and hey, better late than never. But the last 7 games don't quite erase from our minds the first 28. We aren't calling for the guys head, we're just questioning, that if this is all Tags and his beautiful mind as some on here are suggesting, and if so, why he waited 28 games into his tenure to break that style out. 

Honestly in the end I don't really care who's calling the plays, as long as Tags has the good sense to NEVER go back to his old system. 

Thank you so very much!

If anyone could find 1 of these for the WVU game I would forever be in your debt. I've looked long and hard for one- I was devastated when the DVR on my old cable box went nuts and deleted everything on it, including that game.