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The PAC 10 grabs the 5 left out of the Big 12 six and goes to 16

The MWC grabs the other 4 and Boise State and gets to 16

The Big Ten takes ND, Missouri, Rutgers and Syracuse

The SEC takes 4 from the ACC

The ACC and Big East all sports schools merge to 16

CUSA adds teams to get to 16

That makes six, 16-team conferences (96 teams)

They all leave the NCAA to form their own league.

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They could have an 8-team playoff, 6 conference champs and 2 wild cards.  Which would really be a 12 team playoff, because of the conference championship games.

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The PAC 10 grabs the 5 left out of the Big 12 six and goes to 16

The MWC grabs the other 4 and Boise State and gets to 16

The Big Ten takes ND, Missouri, Rutgers and Syracuse

The SEC takes 4 from the ACC

The ACC and Big East all sports schools merge to 16

CUSA adds teams to get to 16

That makes six, 16-team conferences (96 teams)

They all leave the NCAA to form their own league.

Yes I would be happy with this set up. We need to just hope that Texas A&M follows Texas to the Pac 10, and that the SEC picks up either FSU and Miami or in the best case scenario both.

Another great scenario would be that Missouri, Kansas, and KSU join the BE, and we only lose Rutgers,and that we then add TCU and Houston to get to 12 football members.

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The PAC 10 grabs the 5 left out of the Big 12 six and goes to 16

The MWC grabs the other 4 and Boise State and gets to 16

The Big Ten takes ND, Missouri, Rutgers and Syracuse

The SEC takes 4 from the ACC

The ACC and Big East all sports schools merge to 16

CUSA adds teams to get to 16

That makes six, 16-team conferences (96 teams)

They all leave the NCAA to form their own league.

Yes I would be happy with this set up. We need to just hope that Texas A&M follows Texas to the Pac 10, and that the SEC picks up either FSU and Miami or in the best case scenario both.

Another great scenario would be that Missouri, Kansas, and KSU join the BE, and we only lose Rutgers,and that we then add TCU and Houston to get to 12 football members.

Or A&M and OU go to the SEC which satisfies them at 14 teams.  The ACC does not get raided.  The Big east just loses rutgers and ND, and we add kansas, missouri, kstate, iowa state, memphis (cause fedex ceo is willing to pay 10 mil a year to the conference).  12 teams in football, would probably have to add another B-ball only school to make it an even 20. 

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The PAC 10 grabs the 5 left out of the Big 12 six and goes to 16

The MWC grabs the other 4 and Boise State and gets to 16

The Big Ten takes ND, Missouri, Rutgers and Syracuse

The SEC takes 4 from the ACC

The ACC and Big East all sports schools merge to 16

CUSA adds teams to get to 16

That makes six, 16-team conferences (96 teams)

They all leave the NCAA to form their own league.

A few things to ponder in this scenario:

* The MWC has 10 teams now with the addition of Boise State.  They would need to add the 5 Big 12 teams and one more (Baylor? Fresno State?) to get to 16.

* There are several FCS schools looking to make the move in the next decade (Georgia State, Texas-San Antonio, South Alabama, North Alabama, and possibly Charlotte). 

* The MAC has 13 teams currently, and it would not be difficult to add three C-USA or Sun Belt teams to get to 16 (Marshall, Western Kentucky, Middle Tennessee State, Arkansas State, UAB and Troy make the most sense)

* The ACC, depleted to 8 teams by the SEC, would need to take two C-USA teams (Memphis and the FedEx $$ & UCF/ECU/Tulane) in addition to the 6 Big East schools to 16.

* The WAC and C-USA could merge into a national mid-major.  The WAC has indicated they are looking at some I-AA teams to take Boise State's place.  But losing Fresno would put the WAC at 7 teams.  If C-USA loses three teams, then it would be at 9.  Thus a WAC/C-USA merger would make it 16 teams.

* C-USA at 9/10 teams could also choose to merge with a 6/7-team Sun Belt conference.

* Army and Navy will remain independent.

Ultimately, there are 120 teams in the FBS.  That means 7 16-team conferences and 1 8-team conference for now.  There are a handful of other teams that want to move up to FBS, so you could see 8 16-team conferences.  You could also see 6 16-team conferences and 2 12-team conferences for now (6 * 16 + 2 * 12 = 120)

Then I would say you'll see a larger playoff of 12 to 16 teams.  The "lesser" conferences would play in. With the "greater" conferences getting byes.  At-large teams and conference champions would be "seeded" like the basketball tournament.

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I like the idea Jim.  That scenario would be a money maker, because you still have the possibility of a "houston" to upset the big dogs. 

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In Apis scenario, teams wanting to jump to the FCS becomes a non-issue, because the big schools are out of the NCAA.  Those poor schools that don't make the big 96, would likely eventually end up in a secondary tier in the new organization.  Or the NCAA becomes the second tier, much like NAIA exists today.

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In Apis scenario, teams wanting to jump to the FCS becomes a non-issue, because the big schools are out of the NCAA.  Those poor schools that don't make the big 96, would likely eventually end up in a secondary tier in the new organization.  Or the NCAA becomes the second tier, much like NAIA exists today.

The Big Schools will never - never - leave the NCAA.  There is too much bureaucracy needed to run a large national association.  Moreover, the NCAA has special consideration from Congress, including anti-trust exemptions.

Notre Dame will cancel football before these schools leave the NCAA.

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They could have an 8-team playoff, 6 conference champs and 2 wild cards.  Which would really be a 12 team playoff, because of the conference championship games.

These same teams/conferences do not want a playoff now.  Why would they want one if they split from the NCAA?

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They could have an 8-team playoff, 6 conference champs and 2 wild cards.  Which would really be a 12 team playoff, because of the conference championship games.

These same teams/conferences do not want a playoff now.  Why would they want one if they split from the NCAA?

$800 Million rea$ons! that's the guesstimate of a true 16 teams playoff system.

by my count that is $50M per participant so $ 25M to the school and $25M to the conference.

can the BCS bowls match that revenue?

what if a conference gets 2 or 3 teams in?

If the pinheads that run the conferences/schools made business decisions not POWER decisions we would have had a playoff already.

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