IncrediBULL Posted September 23, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 7,201 Reputation: 43 Days Won: 3 Joined: 01/02/2002 Share Posted September 23, 2008 According to Jeff Sagarin, after week 4, he has the following...WVU 26USF 34UConn 35Louisville 41Cinci 48Pitt 60NC STate 68UCF 87Syracuse 119FIU 156Of conferences, Big East is in 6th place (we finished in 4th place last year according to his rankings).CUSA is 8th place.This tells me that USF, UConn and the BE have a lot of work to do. The OOC losses to our conference have hurt us quite a bit.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BULLSHTR Posted September 23, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 1,478 Reputation: 221 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/03/2007 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Yeah the OOC obviously hurt us. lets hope wvu gets it together and beats auburn later on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulls On Parade Posted September 23, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 10,201 Reputation: 1,714 Days Won: 2 Joined: 10/02/2005 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Yeah the OOC obviously hurt us. lets hope wvu gets it together and beats auburn later onThat would be nice but I think WV might get 100 yards if they are lucky Talk about a team dropping like a rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BULLSHTR Posted September 23, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 1,478 Reputation: 221 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/03/2007 Share Posted September 23, 2008 yeah they are doing horribly. we still have to play them in morgantown though.. not a gimme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncrediBULL Posted September 23, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 7,201 Reputation: 43 Days Won: 3 Joined: 01/02/2002 Author Share Posted September 23, 2008 My concern for Sagarin and BCS rankings is that a portion of how our rank is determined is based on the computer polls.With the BE teams so low, playing each other won't help them move up much, especially as so many have at least 2 OOC losses. Combine that with the fact most OOC games will be over with after this week, and it makes for a really crappy chance that we will have ranked BE teams going to bowl games.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 According to Jeff Sagarin, after week 4, he has the following...WVU 26USF 34UConn 35Louisville 41Cinci 48Pitt 60NC STate 68UCF 87Syracuse 119FIU 156Of conferences, Big East is in 6th place (we finished in 4th place last year according to his rankings).CUSA is 8th place.This tells me that USF, UConn and the BE have a lot of work to do. The OOC losses to our conference have hurt us quite a bit....These are the wrong rankings... for BCS purposes, use the ELO-CHESS columnWVU - 18USF - 24Louisville - 28U Conn - 32Cincy - 50NC State - 53Pitt - 58UCF -86'Cuse - 114FIU - 153Notice how much higher the BCS-version is than his regular version (shows you how much he factors scoring margin into his personal rankings).Also, the predictor shows USF is a 10 1/2 pt favorite over NC State... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncrediBULL Posted September 23, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 7,201 Reputation: 43 Days Won: 3 Joined: 01/02/2002 Author Share Posted September 23, 2008 According to Jeff Sagarin, after week 4, he has the following...WVU 26USF 34UConn 35Louisville 41Cinci 48Pitt 60NC STate 68UCF 87Syracuse 119FIU 156Of conferences, Big East is in 6th place (we finished in 4th place last year according to his rankings).CUSA is 8th place.This tells me that USF, UConn and the BE have a lot of work to do. The OOC losses to our conference have hurt us quite a bit....These are the wrong rankings... for BCS purposes, use the ELO-CHESS columnWVU - 18USF - 24Louisville - 28U Conn - 32Cincy - 50NC State - 53Pitt - 58UCF -86'Cuse - 114FIU - 153Notice how much higher the BCS-version is than his regular version (shows you how much he factors scoring margin into his personal rankings).Also, the predictor shows USF is a 10 1/2 pt favorite over NC State...Jim, thanks for the post and good info. I was getting concerned about the BE as a whole since the teams are so far away from the top 25. This still isn't great, but certainly much better than the initial numbers I pulled from his site. BE still has a long way to go to prove we belong. We are having a crappy year. Don't forget we get evaluated for competitiveness every 5 years or so. The ACC with UM/Miami/BC/Wake/Clemson (ie traditional programs) can get away with sucking for a few years. If the BE does that, we will get pounded on..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANJAY Posted September 23, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 7,993 Reputation: 968 Days Won: 21 Joined: 10/31/2005 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Interesting. Last year the computers loved us and the voters hated us. Reverse that this year so far. With those #s, and the lack of OOC games left it will be hard for us to crack the top 5 in the computers even if we go undefeated. Solution: Go undefeated and prove me wrong. ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrumpetBeast Posted September 23, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 136 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/29/2007 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Yeah the OOC obviously hurt us. lets hope wvu gets it together and beats auburn later onI hope Tennessee-Martin beats Auburn, AND West Virginia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Martin Posted September 23, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 8,044 Reputation: 228 Days Won: 9 Joined: 12/23/2005 Share Posted September 23, 2008 There are still 13 OOC games for the Big East. If we manage to pull it together the BEast could do some good.Match ups to move us up:USF @ NC StateAuburn @ WVUUNC @ UConnThe rest are all most likely wins with the exception of Cuse @ ND and Army @ Rutgirls.We can still gain some ground. We wont pull into the top 3, but we can definitely move up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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