Ghostbuster

Yeah come on this program is incredibly young.  We're still the fastest to 150 wins in the state of Florida.

If we had stayed in the kiddie pool longer we coulda had a better shot at lower class conference trophies, but we kept moving up (at least until the Big East collapsed).  

It'll happen eventually.

1 minute ago, brybull1970 said:

Now that the division title is out of reach it’s time to see what the other QB’s can do. We need to see what we have for next year.

Disagree.  Barnett needs more practice time with receivers that can catch.  He transferred late and could use time to get on same page as receivers

Too focused on what they were wearing.

Clearly that was the problem with the first half...

38 minutes ago, michibull said:

And this is the exact problem with the CJL apologists thinking. The "marquee" wins over shadow the "marquee" losses; and this is because with any single win like that, we still have 0 conference championships, 0 BCS bowls and 0 NY6 bowl wins. I personally would trade the non conference wins of those years for wins against Rutgers, Cincy and UCONN (you know, the actual games that matter), this would mean we would have won the BE and played in a BCS bowl. And we didn't even have to go undefeated to do it, most years one or two losses would have won the BE, but he couldn't even do that. The excuse that the BE was much more difficult back then is all relative. Did we not have similar talent to the other teams in our conference? Similar money? Then I don't want to hear it, sounds like another excuse for CJL. I want better for our program and school. 

I hate that this is derailing into a discussion on previous coaches but let me just say that taking a team from inception to a BCS conference is a pretty big accomplishment, along with marquee top 25 wins and bowl wins/appearances.  Once joining the Big East he had only a couple of years to adjust to a different caliber of talent.  You can't simply discount that and say ' no championships, u are all apologists'.  At the end of his tenure he had teams that you felt could compete with anyone; and he had enough wins against quality opponents to justify that.  I'm not saying bring the guy back but come on, let's not pretend there are no legit reasons to like the job he did.  From there it's perfectly reasonable to expect people to think 'what if he came back?'.

4 minutes ago, JTrue said:

My bad. Thought you were talking about our last coach.

(Nah my mistake...Willie seems like the 'nearby' now that I go back and re-read.  Meant nearby school)

22 minutes ago, JTrue said:

Go 6-18?

???  Frost went 18-7 in two years with a squad that was 0-12 the year before.

Fire?  No.  Be happy if another team comes calling?  Probably.  I know it's dumb considering the guys record here but idunno I've seen other teams/coaches piece together better units (like defense) while we still have iffy defense/special teams/and offense that appears predictable at times. 

Wheres the story about the coaches converting some kid to a defensive position and helping him achieve success?  (Like a George Selvie..unfair to use one of our best alums but whatever) Maybe there are stories out there like that, but I haven't heard em so it makes me think why not try something else.  

Again I know it's only year two but I can't help but remember what another coach nearby did after just 2 years.

Refs can suck it after the personal foul flag

4 hours ago, USFBulls727 said:

Still counts as a conference win/loss for them, even though it's East vs. West...

Yes but just like usf last year, they could lose to one team from the other division and still have the *potential* to win out against the rest of their division.

However if they lose to another West team, they need that West team to lose twice because that team would hold the tie breaker over them.

Hey Houston, why risk injury for a game against the east?  Better to rest Oliver and have him healthy for your own division...Totally unbiased advice here.

10 hours ago, MMW said:

So what would that be, winning games?

 

Ah the ole 'switch a roo' quip that ignores what I said...I guess I'll say "har har" in response.  Thing is I never said the coaches weren't winning games or couldn't. 

What I *was* saying was that if Strong thinks one reason we didn't have a complete game is because 'the kids were wearing new uniforms', then it shows he is focused on addressing the wrong (non-existent) problems this team has.

Absolutely not and this is the worst excuse ever.  All this does is show how out of touch he is as a coach. 

You really think the defense couldn't anticipate QB draws on on 3rd and long all night because they were wearing black?  How bout those first two interceptions we threw?  Would Wilcox have made the catches if he had worn the exact same clothes he practiced in?

Maybe the reason this team doesn't appear to improve from week to week is because our coaches are the ones focused on the wrong things.

Second half team baby!!!!

"Second half team...second half team". I gotta keep telling myself that.

So is the "quick slant route" just not in the playbook or what.  We need something to counter our o line getting blown up quick

Easy.  All you ever need to root for is for USF to beat UCF; none of the other schedule minutae matters.

Having said that, I personally I want them to go winless.  While I know a good rivalry with strong teams gets good ticket sales, tv ratings, rankings etc, it doesn't do me any good.  I have to deal with hearing their alums frequently enough.  If you want a rivalry, find a school that doesn't encourage their fans to delude themselves into believing they are national champs.

Final answer: Better for me if FAU upsets, better for USF football if UCF takes care of biz and USF beats them in turn

National Title game (win) all the way.  

Conferences can come and go ::cough Big East cough::  and theres no guarantee the sweet flow of money will continue for the P5 members.  Look at how fast ESPN is losing money after overpaying for TV rights in the era of cord cutters.   Wouldn't be surprised if only a few big name teams got paydays down the road instead of conferences as a whole.  Besides look how well that P5 deals gone for Rutgers.

Stadiums collect dust half the year and we can get one eventually.  (Besides I like my current seats)

But national champs... you'll always have a title.