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    Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

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    I know from reading that this isn't going to be a popular opinion, but I don't personally think football games against Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Kansas, Iowa State or Baylor are going to move the needle much more than most of the AAC schools do (once you get over any novelty factor). Odds are 1/3 of our fans couldn't even tell you the mascot or nickname of most of those teams or identify their logos if their lives depended on it. Even if a Big XII offer materialized, in the face of the AAC exit fees, Big XII entry fees and presumably reduced revenue at the start (for sure not getting a penny of the Texas and Oklahoma exit fees), in the face of trading the sixth best conference for the fifth best conference, I'm not sure whether the cost will be worth the trouble...

     

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    President Currall to retire on Aug 2nd

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    15 hours ago, Friscobull said:

    Not sure why Ron gives a rats ass who our president will be? 

    Given that the state just passed several new laws, including one that mandates faculty and students to submit their political viewpoints in order to prevent the "liberal indoctrination" of students:

     

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    Florida to force students, faculty to declare political views to stop liberal 'indoctrination'

    Governor Ron DeSantis said the state would monitor students and staff's beliefs to ensure they can express their beliefs and viewpoints.

     

    and will now allow students to record faculty without their permission in order to avoid this indoctrination from happening:

     

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    Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signs bill permitting college students to record professors in class

    Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has signed into law, a new bill that will, among other things, allow college students to use recordings of their college professors’ lectures as...

     

    and wants to ensure that the Critical Race Theory bogeyman never gets a foothold on campus:

     

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    Florida bans 'critical race theory' from its classrooms

    TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — Florida's state Board of Education banned “critical race theory” from public school classrooms Thursday, adopting new rules it said would...

     

    I'd say putting in a president who will support each of these initiatives is probably at least of mild interest to him...

    THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS!

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    10 hours ago, CyberBull said:

    People love to blame the university, but at the end of day attendance is simply a matter of people making the decision to take a short drive to the stadium and support their alma mater or stay home and make excuses/blame others.

    Oh believe me, I'm not blaming the university. I'm blaming the hundreds of thousands of USF alumni who buy tickets to see Fl*rida, FSU or Miami games and paraphernalia and then ***** about the fact that we're "not in a good enough conference" or we "don't play football like the big boys."

    USFFan

    THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS!

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    2 minutes ago, GaUSFBull said:

    I would be shocked ... SHOCKED ... if he left for a TOP P5 job after this year.  And let the debate rage as to what constitutes a TOP job ...

    I think he needs at least one more year at USF to rehab his image for the big P5 schools.  Anyone who's paid any attention knows he walked into a great situation with a team that was ready to win at the jump.  How will he do next year with QF and all the other seniors are gone?  

    Of course, knowing me, I'm wrong and he could get hired away before our bowl game ... 

    But now every player we're recruiting is going to be told that he's going to Ole Miss, Tennessee, etc. Bottom line, no excuses - people need to freaking show up at RJS or STFU when things aren't going great.

    USFFan

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    Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

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    2 minutes ago, GaUSFBull said:

    I'll go ahead and give this a similar response to my last one:  :lol:

    This will never happen.  Not only would the P5 schools ranked far down the ladder (who greatly outnumber the select few that are at the top year in and year out) have a violation fit if this were to be considered, but then you have a whole 'nother can of worms in having to basically change the whole current ranking system.  The AP, coaches poll AND the CFP committee couldn't be the ones determining who was going to be ranked if where each team was placed determined their revenue.  

    We'd have to go back to a computer system and I think most would agree that it would be a huge step backward in terms of progress in getting this whole system working as good as it could.

    I would expect the Kansas' and Oregon State's of the current P5 to have a conniption. But if, let's say, Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Fl*rida, Georgia, Clemson, FSU, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, WIsconsin, Texas, Oklahoma, USC, UCLA, Stanford and Washington announced that they were leaving the NCAA to form their own league that would compete as two 9 team leagues that would have a playoff and crown a champion and would share the revenue from those broadcasts unless the "far down the ladder" schools agreed to a graded revenue plan, you better believe that the Baylors and the Mississippi States would come around (after screaming bloody murder about it).

     

    USFFan

    Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

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    Oh, and since this is still ostensibly a realignment thread, I think the latest EPL news could portend what's going to happen in college sports soon:

     

    http://www.espnfc.us/english-premier-league/story/3215455/premier-leagues-big-6-face-opposition-on-overseas-tv-revenue-plans-reports

     

    Essentially, they're pushing to make a TV revenue distribution plan based on where you place in the league. So Bama, Clemson and Ohio State will start making way more TV revenue than Vandy, BC and Rutgers. That would likely rankle some feathers and spark a new round of realignment BINGO.

     

    USFFan

    Way, way before Brumbaugh there was: Schea Cotton

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    I know this is an oldie but a goodie, but I saw that this documentary about Schea Cotton is premiering and all of the memories just came flooding back:

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5323042/fullcredits

    Seth Greenberg is in it, but I wonder if the Alabama chef who swung him to Tuscaloosa will be featured.

    Somewhere, SoCalBull is crying as he looks over the remnants of the shrine...

     

    USFFan

    Paul Griffin

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    There has been very little talk on this board about the man that I believe set the foundation for USF's success..

    I would like to know what many think abou the man who hired CJL -- who brought our atheltic department out of the "red."

    I think this university owes a lot to him.

    my 2 cents.

    Griffin was good, but what I find funny about your fondness for him is the "mediocrity" that engrained itself at USF during Griffin's tenure.  Who did he fire for performance related issues?  Not to be a JoeBulls, but where were our higher expectations then?

    Griffin was good at what he did, but Herman would have noted that the man had no personality.  

    To be clear, Griffin accomplished a lot at USF while not posessing a cup of personality and allowing mediocre sports success.  I'm thankful for what he did, but I will not make him larger than life to overshadow other ADs, past and present.

    We got in the BE because of LRS and his team of people that worked tirelessly promoting USF to the Big East.  We'll be successful in the BE because of people like DW and his team.

    I agree that Griffin wasn't USF's version of Frank Broyles, but there's no way we're in the Big East without him.  First off, Griffin steered the athletic department out of the finacial mess created from Lee Rose's free spending, he engineered our moves from the Sun Belt to the Metro and managed to secure our spot in Conference USA when we were on the brink of being excluded.  He convinced the state to allow us to start football after the nightmare that happened at UCF and nearly bankrupted their athletic department.  Without those accomplishments, we're not even close to sniffing the BCS.  

    Now, with that said, I also don't know that Griffin had the juice to carry us through from where we were to the Big East.  I think it took the charisma of Lee Roy Selmon to bring that home.  Griffin completely botched the whole Winters firing and, frankly, I'm not yet convinced that he handled the Perri Hankins firing properly.  He also let Eddie Cardieri run what was once our most successful sport right into the ground.  

    So, in total, he did a number of great things for which we should all be eternally grateful.  However, he was far from perfect...

    USFFan

    Tommy Amaker Fired.

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    As I said in another thread, stay away from failure.  The Bulls have seen enough bad days and they don't need someone bringing the stink of underachieving from somewhere else as well...I'm not saying Woolard should get Grant or Gillispie, because they are destined for better things right now, all I'm saying is that there are coaches out there who are special and Amaker is not one of them.  Why settle?

    This kind of thinking is laughable, and I can give you a perfect example.  There's a current head coach in the NFL who was fired after going 36-44 in his first stint as a head coach in the NFL.  Once he was fired, it took five years before somebody else would give him a shot as a head coach.  He now has three Super Bowl rings.  I'm not saying that Tommy Amaker could be USF's Bill Belichick, but I wouldn't dismiss him out of hand because of what happened at Michigan.  

    USFFan

    DickieV just upped the price for USF...

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    Speaking of Westerners engrained in their current geography...whatever happened to Mike Montgomery, the famed Stanford coach that went to the NBA and has since been fired?  

    Sounds like path of Pitino and Calipari...

    He's considered to be a shoo-in to take over Santa Clara now that **** Davey is retiring.  He wouldn't have to move and he doesn't need the money after the Warriors bought out his contract.  

    USFFan

    Jose' Rips Administration

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    Jose was right with everything he said.  If USF doesn't do a better job supporting WBB, Jose will be gone the second a great job opens up.  [highlight]This dude can win us a national title....it would be a shame to lose that chance because the support isn't there.[/highlight]

    Very true!  That's actually why Men's BB lost Lee Rose.  He use to get on the public address mic @ the Dome and ask the crowd  ...  "why aren't more of you here?  We went from nothing to a competitive NIT team and nobody if here?"

    He eventually gave  up and moved on.

    Nice story, but not accurate.  Lee Rose may have been frustrated by a lack of attendance, but that's not why he left.  He left because the new AD (Paul Griffin) no longer would allow him to spend whatever he wanted.  Griffin was brought in because the athletic department was getting deeper and deeper into red ink.  Rose saw the writing on the wall and left, also leaving college coaching behind.  

    Also, as somebody pointed out, USF's highest average attendance was 1991-2 (under Bobby Paschal), and Lee Rose only coached in 3 of the 8 USF home games where we had >10,000 in attendance.  

    Finally, the answer to what has happened to USF basketball is pretty obvious.  It's football.  Before football, homecoming was a basketball game and our biggest intercollegiate presence was on the basketball court.  Once football started, interest in hoops has waned such that it's an afterthought.

    USFFan

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