Hopefully this will help! "Also, the coaches agreed to lobby for a fifth year of eligibility for players. Brand said the issue was not discussed at the convention, and will not come up for a vote when the NCAA Division I Management Council meets in April. However, Brand said the council will vote in April on a proposal to allow teams to play a 12th game every season, beginning in 2006. Teaff said if the extra game is approved, the fifth year of eligibility becomes vital. "We have guys (coaches) who will redshirt 20 guys," he said. "When you take 20 guys off of 85 and you go to 12 games, it doesn't mesh. Something has to happen." http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/football/articles/2005/01/12/coaches_delay_vote_on_changes_in_poll_vote/ Go BULLS!! Hey smazza, I don't think I ever thanked you for the tickets! Thanks, my girlfriend and I really enjoyed the club area!