USFStPete

12 minutes ago, brybull1970 said:

Sounds like you have a CJS chub.

Nope just realistic about where we stand as a program and the future value of our coach 

I only read the first 4 pages of comments on this thread so not sure if the sentiment changed...but wow talk about overreacting. Drop down to FCS? Cancel the program? You guys do know that we pull recruits from the state of FLORIDA right and often all it takes is ONE player to turn a program around, i.e. Flowers?

And how about the fact that we just hired a super promising young coach who can recruit like a beast? Can we give him more than 4 games with the mess that our last “coach” left us?

I mean the guy inherited a locker room with very little talent and even less leadership. Bottom line our previous coach was toxic and I hope that some of you all can remember that and be a little realistic and stop panicking.

8 hours ago, Skingraft said:

BLM has been tainted by Antifa and became a domestic terrorist group..

 

What could have been a good statement is now nothing more than looting and rioting

It's much more than looting and rioting.  Yes mistakes were made in getting the message across but should that take away from its importance?  If a can't-miss formula for impacting positive societal change existed, we would live in utopia.

Enough with the loser mentality. This is the AAC. With the talent pool we draw from we are always a year away from being competitive and should always have pretty high expectations. Especially now that have a competent coaching staff.

We need a coach that wants to coach here and I feel like he's wanted to ever since he got fired.  Come home Jimbo!!!

3 hours ago, Bull Dozer said:

FSU fans honestly thought they were a coach away from reliving the Jameis run. That job was always going to to take at least 2 seasons of rebuilding just due to what Jimbo did on the way out the door the last couple years. Not to mention the cultural rot in the locker room. If they don't bring in a name coach like Bob Stoops or Franklin the fan base won't be happy and at the first sign of adversity they will break out the pitchforks again and the FSU media will be ready to to throw gas in on the fire like they did with Taggart to get their precious clicks. It's honesty a pretty toxic job up there now... 

You don't pay someone $20M to get lost after 2 years just to appease the media.  I honestly think they realized very early on the mistake they made and how poor of a gameday coach he is, which he was with us also.  The only difference is Flowers came along to save his job.  Hopefully we don't make the same mistake.

Let's not forget that Taggart was a game away from being fired when Flowers and Mack came along to save his job.  These are once-in-a-decade players.  His record without players like this speaks for itself, mainly because he's not a good team manager or Xs and Os guy.  Not to mention, he was running an offense that was successful in its early days, but has been seen all over the country now.

If you can promise me a Flowers and Mack again next year, then I'd consider bringing him back.  Otherwise why would we go with a retread who has obvious deficiencies?

The opinions of 18-21 year olds shouldn't have any bearing on the direction of our program.

**** I sound old with that statement, but I believe it.

This gives me faith that they have someone in mind.  Not that anyone wouldn't be an improvement.

I would love a coach that is actually excited about USF football.  To me this is the #1 reason why we've fallen so far over the past few years.

We need someone to infuse some positivity into this program, even if it's a little over-ambitious.

I have to question the basic business acumen of anyone that thinks that the leadership of this team can or should remain in place 

It makes me cringe to see how little control the coaching staff has over this team. 

11.30.19.
 

I have never seen a coaching staff have less control of a team than USF football 2019. To keep this disaster going for any longer than the date above is an absolutely horrible business decision...much worse than paying a buyout would be.

If we keep him there’s no way the situation gets better, so you’re basically saying F*** another season with a lame duck head coach. Seriously I will lose a lot of faith in our program if we don’t fire him immediately tomorrow. 

The head coach is holding him down. I’m 100% convinced. 

4 minutes ago, atsKnight said:

But even while defending yourself (again) by saying it's just fun, you're still concerned with what I think of you. 

Why do you take that as me being concerned what you think of me.  You asked a question and I answered it.  My goodness bro.  You have some good banter but mix in some social skills.

3 minutes ago, atsKnight said:

I'm not sure what's passive at all about my interactions. I'm honestly not sure how I could be any more direct. 

But let's try: my current hypothesis is that one of us is clearly craving acceptance from the other. I've explained my motivation for being here and engaging ad nauseam. Why are you explaining yourself to me? If UCF fans are inferior, why are you defending your definitions and ability to read people? Why not just walk away, ignore the passive aggressive troll?

Clearly one of us needs acceptance from the other. 

Honestly, I'm just doing it because it's thought provoking banter and am having fun with it.  But please don't confuse that with the fact that UCF fans have an inferiority complex.

And the fact that you don't define "deflect" and "reverse psychology" the same way as me kinda points to your insecurities.

3 minutes ago, atsKnight said:

Deflect and reverse psychology, I don't think these words mean what you think they mean. 

How definitively you read people has everything to do with you. You're the one making the judgments, deciding the right sample size. You even point how important anecdotal evidence is to you. And the judgments you make point to your insecurities. 

UCF fans all seem to crave acceptance. What are you reading that allows you to see inside someone's head? Are you seeing the craving for acceptance in me?

Yes, I absolutely am.  So is everyone else.

10 minutes ago, atsKnight said:

How do you measure if another person 'craves acceptance' or will 'always be inferior'? Those seem like confident and definitive statements. 

How is that reverse psychology?

In this instance, nothing more than your lame passive-aggressive attempt to regain control of the argument.

Because I'm pretty confident in my ability to read people, and everything I've seen from every UCF fan I know points right to these characteristics.

You can try to deflect it, but it has nothing to do with me.

1 minute ago, atsKnight said:

Would you feel embarrassed if a telemarketer did that to you? 

Seems like you might be another example of insecurity. 

Bold strategy Cotton.  He's going with the old "reverse psychology".

2 minutes ago, ForestBull said:

I bet you get hung up on by telemarketers 

Hahahahah that's pretty funny.  Even if you didn't come up with it yourself

2 minutes ago, atsKnight said:

That's definitely a possibility. 

I'm interested in how you phrased that, "crave acceptance" and "always be inferior". 

If I'm just some UCF troll, feel free to ignore me, but if you're wanting to engage on this stuff, I would be happy to. Again, I'm fine dropping it right there, but if you want to keep commenting, I'll assume you want to talk about it. 

This is the first time I've commented...what is it you want to talk about?

UCF fans are like insecure little girls.  They crave acceptance and even when they get a little success, know they aren't worthy and that they'll always be inferior.  So they come to opposing message boards for validity.