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Hey- we just need to give Antigua more time! Because Willie got three years and now USF football is a national championship contender! Plus, I mean I wanna let him see this thru signing the entire Dominican Junior national team! So what if they can't do teh schoolz!

Well UCONN brings strong hoops teams, and while it's not the biggest draw, they have pretty much a dynasty going at women's hoops. And the men have a title still in everyone's memory. That can make up for a mediocre football team to some id guess. They'd be my first choice in a vacuum, but since we don't live in a vacuum, I'd just say they're a strong choice if they do head past the Mississippi for schools. BYU and Boise would still make a ton of sense of them however, unless they see something tangible w recruiting and 'vacation trips' to come here, watch OK State play USF, then head to the beach for the weekend. Our men's hoops team is more of a hinderance than an asset right now, and despite having no reason, being in Tampa, to have an average baseball team, somehow every coach after Eddie Cardieri has proceeded to do just that. 

So if they are content to stay average to bad at the other attention getting sports, the football team is going to need to have a season like Houston just did, and fast. 

13 hours ago, Danm1983 said:

out of context a bit, but LOL that everyone went all 'PAWWWWLLLLLLLL' on it

I mean, UGH. What a Stanford (or Duke) thing to say. Guess they don't hold satellite camps in ivory towers. 

Start Brett Keen!

Its a pleasant problem to have. AW gives you, IMO a little more of a complete player but I'd hope they give both meaningful PT. 

Yeah I honestly don't know how much those services cost- if they're reasonable, and may help your kid get a look at some FCS school, good for you. In my mind I assume it's that kid you knew in HS that had all the new expensive gear, went to (insert local pro sports player)'s camps, etc. I could be way off. 

1 hour ago, NewEnglandBull said:

I agree with your point entirely. But why say a kid who can't afford "to have daddy pay." I hear this all the time, it sounds so condescending. So does this mean that if a parent wants to help a kid shouldn't?

I'd say about 9/10 times its more the parent wanting to live thru their kid's achievements more than wanting to help the kid better himself  

I mean, it's fine if you have the means, and there's no reason not to take advantage, but there's nothing noble to me about Marv Marinovich'ing your kid into a college scholly  

40 minutes ago, BullsFanInTX said:

Are we really worried about losing Florida recruits to UConn?  And even Indiana?

Yeah! 

I mean, while yeah, maybe 9/10 would chose USF over those schools, maybe that 1 they go after hard decides "IU seems to want me more" 

just like how (at least w Leavitt) maybe 1/10 would come here instead of FSU/UF. 

That said, while it may hurt USF some in recruiting, it would seem to help the kids themselves showcase their talent to a broader audience, especially the kid who can't afford to have daddy pay some recruiting service to put together an HD highlight video to send out to schools. So while I'm pro USF, I'm even more pro for kids finding a school, so I'd still lean towards not banning these  

3 hours ago, George Jenkins said:

I would pay to see this.

The part where USF gets added to the big 12? So would I! 

17 hours ago, Bull Dozer said:

 

We do satellite camps  in the southern part of the state too (I believe in Ft Myers and the Miami area)  It definitely helps the coaches get up close looks at kids and allows them to get a good up close evaluation. It also definitely helps kids with unstable home situations get in front of the coaches as its usually easier to find a ride for less than an hour drive than it is a 3 hour drive. 

Especially in a state with so many viable scholarship athletes those camps could only help them get noticed. Now can USF still do those in state ones? I thought from (admittedly skimming) the ruling only the real long distance camps were banned

While yes, it can give teams that run the camps (and have the money to do them) a recruiting advantage, but it also gives a lot more kids exposure and the potential to find a scholarship. I don't know how/if they would help a USF out (other than Willie getting to tell more people he knows the Harbaughs) but like some said, the SEC teams get what they want. 

If Woolard got the settlement he deserved, someone would simply mail him a box full of assorted turds: human, dog, cat, Skip Holtz himself, etc. 

At least with the Fowler Jimmy Johns, I could just save my digestive system the time and trouble and just go ahead and put the sub directly in the toilet.

You don't fully appreciate Publix until you leave the state and have to go grocery shopping. I went to an Ingles in NC, one of the nicer ones too, and it made even an old Publix look like Disney World by comparison

I'll also say that my comment on here is more "hot take" than anything rooted in firm belief. Do I think he's doing a great job? Nah. Am I optimistic for the future? Not really. Should they fire him this morning? No. 

I did also enjoy the 2011-12 USF team. Yeah the offense was mostly "hold the ball until there's 5 seconds left on the shot clock, then have Collins try to draw a foul" but that team's defense was a thing of beauty. Fitz and Gus were 2 of the best post defenders I have ever seen in college hoops, and you got the occasional highlight reel dunk from Rudd or Poland that made you leave your seat. 

I know that team was more the exception than the norm, but with USF's basketball history, I'm more willing to wait out a couple seasons of mediocrity to see that. But I really don't see what Antigua is trying to do here. 

9 hours ago, Triple B said:

Maybe he enjoyed the 20 win seasons and NCAA tourney wins ...

That's exactly it. Typically I hate slow down hoops but that team was so darn good at it. 

That and seeing USF in the tourney, even once every now and then, was better than the status quo in hoops. Watching them struggle to get a conference win isn't fun even if they were scoring 85 a game

I don't know if he should be fired after this season,but it looks grim. This does not look like a very talented team. Pretty much the only way to coax a winning season from that sort of talent would be if he were some mastermind at hoops, which he is not. That's not to say he's terrible at coaching, but in basketball maybe more so than football, a lack of talent, especially in a fairly good conference, can be a death knell. 

Instead of going after a guy from a big program, perhaps USF needs to get a coach from a mid major school, because, sorry to say, that's essentially what this job is. 

I never wanted Heath to leave, because frankly I can't see any coach USF is capable of getting being able to do better than what Stan did. Based on the talent I see for USF, I think best case, when these guys are all seniors, they could go about .400 in conference and maybe get enough 67-62 wins over St. Leo to get near .500 overall

Loved Kayvon here and love that he's succeeding in the pros

This guy was basically a bag man for Calipari, and he's trying to turn USF into the Dominican Junior National team. Only thing is... there's generally plenty of good basketball players from the United States that would like to play college ball.

Pascal did this a couple decades ago after he fell backwards into 1 good Euro in Dobras.. started taking anyone with a hard to spell last name and the team was terrible. So is this one. I think USF should have realized at basketball it wasn't getting any better than what Heath was bringing, an occasional good team mixed in with 3-4 mediocre ones... Antigua isn't bribing recruiting another Karl Towns here, and that was pretty much his worth at UK.

But I'm sure the "you gotta give him time, we gave Willie a 3rd year and now he's a young Nick Saban!" crowd will win out here.

I'd like the whole "recruit everyone from the Dominican" strategy more for the baseball team.

On January 12, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Sellular1 said:

Jeez man, you got the shhit neg'd out of you for a fairly rational comment.  

It's an echo chamber of only "Willie is the greatest thing to happen to football since the advent of the forward pass" type comments, or be besieged by -1's and hater references. 

Go ahead and neg this too then. 

Whatever helps you guys sleep at night.

32 minutes ago, bullsbucsfan426 said:

He's not talking heavy technical talk. Narduzzi and McElwain are doing way more of that. 

 

It doesn't really seem like he's on the same level as these guys. Very much offense, but he's never seemed like he has a great deal of coaching acumen. This is why I hope USF can continue to win in spite of him, rather than because of anything he does coaching wise to win games.  

Has he said anything? I keep flipping but barely hear him speak 

Wade Boggs used to live in there too. I delivered pizzas back in college to him, Sampras came in for calzones, Martin Mayhew, Dilfer, and I want to say Tony Mayberry

In camp, while he was healthy, he hadn't even cracked any of the 2 deeps Willie sent out to the press. 

Some of you are the kings of picking 1 thing out of whatever is said and going to town on it. Christ. Get over yourselves. Unless you participate in the Willie ********* the buzzards all come out. And yet I could say some generic pablum like "oh the Bulls really became a team today!" and get upvoted to no end. 

14 hours ago, DELdaBull said:

He was injured for the 1st six games. Why waste a year of eligibility? 

I just ask fans to pay attention.  It doesn't cost much. 

Jesus. Preseason he couldn't crack the 2 deep.  Figured I didn't need to explain. 

I just ask fans not to be know it all douche nozzles. It doesn't cost much

8 hours ago, dausfbulls11 said:

We lost 3 starters on the oline going into this year too

I'm not saying it will be a definite weakness, but it's always a concern. I was not expecting Gundmunsonnn and Thor to step up as big as they did this season, so I hope there are more surprises.. But that the Stanford kid couldn't really crack the 2 deep this season was a concern to me.