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42 minutes ago, George_Bullnard_Shaw said:

Wizard's First Rule.

I bought the 9 book set to that series... Still haven't read it. I keep getting distracted by other series.

Just now, Bull-Hornz said:

True.

As many are stating in the media and on TBP, its possible that CCS close to figuring it out just like CWT was at USF which was confounded by other factors at Texas. We should recall that we were just about ready to fire CWT in year 3. The fact that Texas was in the top 20 on offense would indicate that they were indeed getting close on O.

I think our is only going to get better under CCS because we will have a better OC at the helm (ie not CCS) and a better D as he has a proven track record as a DC. 

That last point is a very fair one. I'm really excited to see what sort of defensive improvements we get.

7 minutes ago, Bull-Hornz said:

Do you think that would be the case if we were in the SEC or Big12? 

I would speculate that we would not be able to out talent as many teams as we did this year if you substitute us in either of those conferences. FSU was not that great of a D, but talent was on par with the many Big12 teams, and we struggled on O.

The play calling was not the X factor in 2016. It was FL talent with a spread offense. Keep the spread and the talent and we will be successful a la CJL and CWT last 2 years. Force a pro style/power set on USF and down we go. I will take a bet that CCS will not do this.

This is sort of a slippery slope. I mean Charlie Strong had Top 10 recruiting classes during his first two years there. We don't get recruits like that here. So they clearly have the talent there.

I would agree with you on the play calling thing. That's the only thing that concerns me, if we get a power offense forced on us. I agree that it's unlikely to happen. However, I'm just stating that I would prefer to keep our offensive staff, don't fix what isn't broken IMO.

Oh, and the Big 12 doesn't play defense, so yeah I do think we'd still have gaudy offensive numbers!

5 minutes ago, Bull-Hornz said:

Offensive stats from 2016: http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/21

Texas 19

Tennessee 50

South Florida 10

Ohhhhh that's very interesting news! 

7 minutes ago, slowdown said:

Texas's offense was 19th in yards this year.  I dare say they did not have the dominant player personnel we did either.  It's not like they are inept.  It's also not a given that Taggart won't be taking one or more members of our staff, I'm pretty open to some of their staff coming, just depending on how things work out. 

There's been a lot of complaints about Sterlin Gilbert's play calling specifically. I shouldn't have made my statement so generic. I would rather keep T.J. Weist and/or David Reaves over Sterlin Gilbert.

Then again, those guys haven't had a chance to play call here at USF. So I will go ahead and shut up and reserve judgement. I'm still very happy about the Charlie Strong hire!!

Uh oh if true... Don't be stubborn, man. Keep the offensive coaches we already have in place. I don't want Texas's offensive coaches...

Just now, Bullinchinashop said:

Joe Kinnan.  Senior offensive Consultant . Formerly Manatee HS Coach. He is on USF staff hired by slick Willie to provide offensive consulting.   This is a fact, google it 

I never disputed that fact. I said show me someone besides Willie that called plays on the offensive side.. You do realize Willie was making the play calls during the game right? That's what play calling is.

3 minutes ago, Bullinchinashop said:

I got the contract term from Pete Thamel who is works with SI.  His Twitter is @SIPeteThamel.  

Im just a USF grad and fan, I let the experts provide me with the Contract info.  Tell me seriously did you like that pathetic power run Stanford offense with endless shifting the first 2 years??  Do you think he changed his ways by himself? No he was forced to change and listen to the high school coach he brought in.  lol 

No way, I did not enjoy that offense. I don't think anyone can genuinely said they did. I'm giving him credit to listening to wisdom and changing his philosophy and adapting it. I was calling you out for saying he got serious help on play calling. As far as I'm aware he is the only coach to call plays on the offensive side, but correct me if I'm wrong.

I don't get why you were trying to label his time here as a failure, when it was clearly a success. Yep, there were some low moments, sure. But he got hired by Oregon as a result of his success!! I'm starting to get excited to see what coach we can get next. 

Btw, Lane is not coming here.

They must have confused us with WKU... WKU was winless before his first season there. Those jerks.

29 minutes ago, Bullinchinashop said:

During slick Willie tenture we lost at home to:

FAU, McNeese State, UCF

lost on road to:

UCF and Western Kentucky

even lazy skip would not have lost to these schools

Go Bulls.   The team did not turn around until Taggart was on hot seat and cut Flowers loose and got major help with play calling.  Oregon is not sold oh him, 3 year contract at $3.2 million a year.  This is a wait and see Contract, Eugene Oregon does not have football talent, he will have to recruit Texas and California to be successful.  2 wins first year and he will wish he was in Tampa.     Now let's get Charlie or Lane.    

During CWT tenure.... we went 2-10, 4-8, 8-5, then 10-2. That's enough for me.

Also his Oregon contract is for 5 years, not 3. However, if you want to make that up as fact too, go right ahead. Just don't present it as fact and expect to be taken seriously.

6 minutes ago, GaUSFBull said:

I'm taking it.  

Same. I wish Taggart well.. I'm actually excited to see who we get next. They have a stacked team they are coming into. I legitimately laughed when I read an article that was throwing Schiano's name out there! No chance he's coming here (I hope).

Guess that means we won't be losing to Temple next year!

On a more serious note.. it sucks for Temple. But it seems like a really weird hire for Baylor, and for Rhule. I figured he would hold out for a better job. Baylor is gonna be a rebuild for him.

1 hour ago, goldenbrahm1996 said:

I think Navy and WKU dropping was more related to them losing basically their whole team to graduation. I think we have a better chance since we're returning almost everyone important

1 hour ago, Apis Bull said:

 

^This.  Navy lost Reynolds

Houston still dropped 7 spots though, they did not lose much if I remember correctly, and they beat FSU at the end of the season.

Don't get me wrong.. I will hold out hope, but I'm expecting the worst with the pollsters. Granted.. we still need to win our Bowl game of course!

I hate to break it to you guys, but both Navy and WKU finished the season ranked last year and dropped out of the preseason rankings. You guys know they like to rank the usual suspects first, no matter how they ended the previous year (i.e., ND). so even if we finish ranked, don't get your hopes too high on us being ranked next year.

Navy dropped from #18 to #38.

WKU dropped from #24 to #40.

Oh and Houston dropped from #8 to #15. We're in the "G5", we will get dropped.

12 hours ago, Leviathan said:

Yep, our division is weak and we didn't have to play Houston. This should have been the year we played in the conference championship. 

 

Who here would have chosen a 10-win season over conference champs with only 8-wins?

Why bring up Houston? We played the three teams that beat Houston and beat them. We went 7-1 in our conference! We didn't win the east with 7 wins and 1 freaking loss!! That's bad luck.

21 minutes ago, Apis Bull said:

More comparisons:

Jackson - Pass Att 382 / Comp 220 / Yds per attempt 8.9 / Rushes 234 / Yds per rush 6.6

Flower- Pass Att 299 / Comp 184 / Yds per attempt 8.5 / Rushes 177 / Yds per rush 8.1

Because Louisville has a better defense, Jackson had more offensive plays.  I think they compare favorably.

Very interesting stats, thanks for taking the time to compile them.

13 minutes ago, Mike Stuben said:

Putting injuries aside, it took a special level of coaching genius that Coach O'Leary displayed losing to both the I-AA and FIU. In fact that should erect a statue to honor him. Oh, wait, never mind. 

Ahh, so that's why he got the statue!

16 hours ago, BullTime said:

Stop looking through green & gold colored glasses and watch the game again; the defense has not improved.  They gave up numerous long plays against SMU. 

Stop looking at it through misery. The defense got THREE turnovers, where they haven't done so before. That is objectively an improvement, regardless of how many yards they gave up.

Nowhere did I state that the defense played great, nor even to an acceptable level. Instead some people love to just hate, instead of looking at things objectively. If you can't see that there was an improvement, then you are looking at it with differently colored glasses, not me. 

25 minutes ago, BucsandBulls said:

 

I think you are missing a key point that we actually get 3 bye weeks next year because of moving our 1st game up. There will be one more bye week sometime in the middle of the conference schedule that is currently undetermined.

I did miss that, thanks! Consider me relieved.

So I'm not gonna lie, that early bye week scares me. Hopefully our depth doesn't diminish and we can do a lot of rotating towards the end of the season.

9 hours ago, BullTime said:

Overall yes..absolutely.  Offense is much improved and they have gotten better over the season.  The Offense is carrying the team.  Defense has not shown any improvement and appears to have gotten worse over the season.   They just keep giving up big plays time and time again.

Offense has taken three steps forward and the defense has taken two steps back.  Same core of players as last year...looks like we need a new DC.

To be fair, defense looked better last game and actually did show inprovement. Let's see how they do vs UCF.

Hey guys.. Look who made that stop!

STUFFED BABY! Oh.. right spot. It looked like a stuff.

Just now, nobullaboutit said:

Are stupid defense can't even understand how to defend a pass!

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