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Just now, Outlaw said:

Some businesses call that the VIP area.

USF needs one STAT!

USF could have a general seating section, a Club section, and an In Da Club section with blacked out windows and no cameras.

2 minutes ago, Friscobull said:

The alcohol ban was a travesty however subjecting us to this is equally as disturbing.   I will not rest until we right this wrong and are able to provide booze and eye candy to every fan to help us weather this rebuild.  No booze no peace and from the famous words of Patrick Henry “ give me titties or give me death”.  

Titty season tickets - now that's a concept. I'll modify the old Rodney Dangerfield line, "I went to a strip club and football game broke out".

7 minutes ago, Friscobull said:

Yes every University has this but why do we do it so poorly, I am calling for the coach of this squad to be fired, I don’t even care if it is a volunteer position, they need to be removed immediately.  I need someone to field a team of hotties only, don’t care if they have the grades or can dance, let’s do something right for a change.

If beer isn't allowed so we can be distracted by the play on the field, then hot chicks are the next best (and possibly even better) answer.

1 hour ago, Friscobull said:

I am not sure what they are trying to accomplish but the fans want none of it.

They wat people talking about. Mission accomplished.

5 minutes ago, Friscobull said:

That is baffling to me as well, when you watch Bama, Auburn etc...they line up incredible plastic hotties and the cameramen can’t get enough of them.  I know we are not in the same world as them but why the **** do they put fat asses in that position, if we can’t find top notch or even average talent then **** can that experiment, it is pathetic. I have been accustomed to a losing team but I know we were tapping better ass then that while walking those hallowed halls back in the day and we deserve better!

 

We have 50k students. Its time to find the hottest and put them on scholarship. 

14 minutes ago, mj796 said:

Saturday night was depressing on every level. I have to assume that we didn't even hit the reduced capacity level. The vibe in the stands was terrible...I saw very few students. There was piped-in crowd noise...it was very annoying. No tailgating is just eerie. Concession options were poor to very poor...no alcohol was crazy. I don't need to get hammered at a game but enjoying a beer certainly adds to the experience. I guess the band and these weird people dancing in front of them were always less attractive, but I definitely noticed how large they have become. I don't know why we need large, unattractive people dancing in front of the band but that group being spotlit in the front row certainly doesn't scream 'come to USF' which I imagine is something we want people to do. The band was wearing t-shirts and just looked sloppy/apathetic. Bands have cool uniforms...no idea why they wouldn't wear them. I think I have noticed this before as well and someone said it was too hot...seems like a lot of whining and is very weak. The Sun Dolls had a pre-recorded dance thing...it was also quite sad. All in all, it was terribly depressing and I am still rather miserable about it. 

Your post begs the important question of "Who is setting the bar at USF?" I think academically, most will agree that the bar has been raised and the university has earned and now benefits from the pre-eminence status, that began with the university raising the bar.

For athletics the answer to that question echoes a more nebulous answer. The administration caught lightning in a bottle with CJL and Selmon, and never capitalized on the momentum generated by football in the 2000's by investing in its future growth. Ever since the untimely and sad departure of these local heroes from the university, USF has paraded in a series of carpet-baggers with little-to-no ties to the community who are solely interested in cashing checks.

So again, I ask, who is setting he bar for USF athletics? Or are we lowering the bar to match the university's financial investment?

8 minutes ago, USFStPete said:

Nope just realistic about where we stand as a program and the future value of our coach 

For everyone's sake, I hope you are right.

12 minutes ago, Blackice12 said:

We all need to embrace  Steve Austin Six Million Dollar Man.  For those a bit young not the wrestler but the 70's television series. 

"Gentlemen, we can rebuild him. We have the technology. We have the capability to make the world's first bionic man. Steve Austin will be that man. Better than he was before. Better...stronger...faster."

 

Ah, they don't make them like that any more. Any chance we can get McCloud one of those bionic arms?

2 minutes ago, CousinRicky said:

Did plenty of that at the game. The mask helped prevent the little kids 2 rows in front of me from hearing it.

USF games are actually where little kids learn their first swear words.

1 minute ago, Brad said:

Scott recruiting to Clemson is similar to Antigua recruiting to Kentucky.  

oofff

Just now, zarnozdabull said:

Feel so bad for players like Ford.

Dude should transfer out and try to actually win something. He’s special talent.

Also, these coordinators...

I’m not a fan of running HB dives with under 2 minutes left in the half down 17. Weiss’s play calling is veryyy questionable so far.

Spencer has also underwhelmed at every school he’s coached at. Look at the numbers, his defense average several blowouts a season and he’s hardly every retained.

Just throwing that out there, they need to be under a magnifying glass as well.

 

His touchdown run down the left side was a thing of beauty.

Just now, NewEnglandBull said:

There would still be rejection. I teach at a FCS school. They make the playoffs every year. About 2000 people care...and that’s New Hampshire. I would think it would be even worse in Florida. Based on your metrics (which I don’t completely agree with), then in my opinion we should play in the AAC or shut down completely...there is no middle ground here. 

Yeah, I know I am in the minority on this one.

2 minutes ago, George_Bullnard_Shaw said:

I'm going to hypothesize that USF football's existence will not hurt the school one bit if it were to end. My eyes and my anecdotal evidence say the student base doesn't care about college athletics, at USF and in general all over the country anymore. Heck, at my school we didn't care about our college athletics and that was 87-93. I keep saying the day of the homogeneous student body in big land grant universities where the students are 2nd and 3rd gen, and football is the big draw in the city other than bars is over. It's the alumni still buying into that era that has long past, like 70 year olds today thinking they can legislate the 50's back into existence.

I agree. The apathy that the university has for the football program will mean that once its gone the university will go on without much impact. We'll be the old guys that talk about USF football like the guys in South Tampa talked about the good old days of the University of Tampa football did 10-20 years ago.

3 minutes ago, pascobull said:

I will say this. If we start winning 10 games a year and move to FCS over CFP frustration then I'll be fine with that. We just can't go FCS because we're failing. I don't want to see the team I love die at the soccer field like the end of a Benjamin Buttons movie.

With a 24 game playoff in FCS, there would be a path every year for USF to compete for a national championship. Throw is a couple of pay day games against a few in-state schools and USF can build the foundation in the community it should have in the early 2000's. Sometimes taking a step backwards is the best path forward.

1 minute ago, George_Bullnard_Shaw said:

This one is tough to argue against, especially because I've made the same point, Tampa has a perennially competitive hockey team, an ignored baseball team that from time to time over achieves and an NFL franchise that looks better and even in the bad years of which there are many they are NFL so they draw. Tampa also has a world class performing arts center that draws the best shows soonest, beaches and theme parks local and a short drive to Orlando for the big them parks. You really do have to be major league to attract the fans here.

The drain is circling. The decision to make a move doesn't have to be made yet, but its coming. And I for one would rather see USF thrive in FCS on a smaller scale then have the entire community reject USF football at our current level and cause its death.

5 minutes ago, pascobull said:

I'm sorry for doing this to you:

 

It's all good lol

Remember when we were 2 minutes way from making the Sweet 16 in 2012? Its the ability to dream that makes being a fan so great. G5 football is the the only NCAA sport with no path to a national championship, and we are an irrelevant citizen in an irrelevant land.

G5 football is an exhibition - nothing else.

2 minutes ago, pascobull said:

If i had to bet with my own money...I say death also. Scott will have to recruit like CWT to survive. I'm still stunned Willy was able to get M Mack and D Johnson in the same 2014 class. That saved us from being dead already. We need another M Mack savior and he did save us as much as Q Flowers.

My concern is even if CJS recruits and develops players there is still no path to the CFP - UCF has proven that no matter what on field success will not matter. That essentially renders USF and G5 football as an exhibition, of which the local community will not, and have not, supported.

That will be the death of USF football in an already over-saturated sports market.

5 minutes ago, pascobull said:

USF isn't going to voluntarily leave the AAC (Uconn will show us why that's an awful idea). If kicked out, the MAC and Sunbelt membership would be pursued followed by D-1 independence and FCS. Unless we have an instant FCS playoff team(we don't and our recruiting would get worse than it already is) FCS membership leads us to play at the soccer field in front of 1500 fans for a year or two before they shut the whole thing down. Win or die in the AAC is the only option. We are not going to become the new North Dakota State Bisons. Maybe we model our comeback on the mighty Coastal Carolina Chanticleers of the Sunbelt. I heard somewhere they are a team on the rise. 

Hey! Its the first rational counter argument. Thanks pascobull! Unfortunately if your only choices are win or die in the AAC, I think death is the likely outcome.

1 minute ago, puc86 said:

CWT came in and wanted to run a Harbaugh offense that’s the reason he failed and did worse, when he picked a proper path it didn’t take much time at all to improve.

I guess you are proving my point - its an adjustment period for everyone, the players and coaches. 

4 minutes ago, Bull94 said:

He didn't recruit these players. He's had almost no time to teach them a new system. This was our 3rd game. Generally in a total rebuild things get worse before they get better

 

CWT's first year should be proof enough.

1 minute ago, Bull94 said:

I feel sorry for that guy. He's like the middle school gym teacher who was the high school QB that dated the head cheer leader. He will never find a love as good as Jim Leavitt

That's why he "chokes it" at home every Friday night. He just imagines a tight CJL grip and goes to town.

4 minutes ago, Bull94 said:

well said.

we need the players and it will take time.

no coach is going to come in here and revolutionize college football with some scheme that allows a roster devoid of talent to turn into a juggernaut.

Paging Dr. Puc...Dr.Puc...you're needed.

7 hours ago, puc86 said:

We have done our part and the stewards of our efforts have and continue to squander anything we do for them and at some point it’s on them that the product they are deciding to produce just is not enjoyable in any way shape or form or worth a single discretionary dollar. They have been given plenty of money and most of them have made plenty of money and if they want to continue for that to happen they may want to try doing something that makes people happy to to continue their patronage. We have taken a religion business model where people continue to give and suffer because they think there will be some reward for their sacrifice in the end, we should probably try taking  the entertainment model that we used to have because looking around that one seems to be more lucrative for us.

Agreed. We have lost many fans since 2012 when the Big East fell apart, and we have proven that we can't even compete in a watered down conference. Most fans have realized that even if USF were to become UCF in football, the lack of access to the playoffs renders competing at this level irrelevant.

G5 football is the equivalent of the humans being fed to the machines in the Matrix. The FCS may be eating gruel and living homeless underground but at least they are free to all compete for a national championship.