8u11`o3

10 minutes ago, FazaUSF said:

I actually really like Coach Da Prato and hope we keep him on.

If Da Prato is the reason we return kicks from 3 yards deep in the end zone, then I like him as a special teams coach.  Otherwise...

31 minutes ago, hm101 said:

I honestly don't give a rats ass who our coach in on Monday. If I ever see anything resembling the cowardice of 3 runs up the middle INSTEAD of the jugular, in a rivalry game, with the lead, and the ball, it's game over for me and USF. I don't care that we lost. I care that this timid ******** reigns. UCF wants to punch everyone in the mouth. They expect to win every game. They jaw away online. 

We talk about culture and how proud we are of effort and with our foot on the necks of our enemy, we relent. 

Does it end today, with DDPs last press conference hopefully ever as a Bull, and the last vestiges of CJSs culture? Or is it more of the same starting Monday? Is it a problem with LRS? Does VPMK make it abundantly clear to all his coaches that you finish the job in a situation like that?

same! (i am out of reactions)

6 minutes ago, NCBull said:

I’m just calling it like I saw it, not saying a really good coaching staff wouldn’t do better but our guys in their positions did their best.  What, should they not have called three running plays, with Battie as lead and Brown as the option?  It wasn’t crazy, is all.

Yeah, that.  I don't like 3 runs there, especially the last one must have been 3rd and 8 or longer?  You are surrendering the outcome to your sieve defense.  I'd like to see the offense attempt to convert, but not by way of freshman qb improvisation if the call was rpo.  Let's dial up a pass.

7 minutes ago, Grateful Dad said:

Man, I thought they were going to 64-12 us and we wound up almost beating them.  I come on here and everyone is pissed.  Did you all really expect to win when the game started?

The team and coaches kept it close and we weren't embarrassed.  I'll take it and look forward.  Thanks, seniors!

I fully expected to compete despite this horrible season, yes.  I think the game was winnable with the ball and the lead in the last 3 minutes.  The situation was mishandled.  Others may be pissed, I am not. 

7 minutes ago, NCBull said:

Ok I think you mean the post-fumble play calling.  Fair point, it was conservative.  A more experienced QB would have pulled the option and converted on one of those, it was wide open.

You are conceding ground there a bit, i want to meet you in the middle. but i don't think as a coach you put that burden on your freshman qb.  I am not going to criticise coaching throughout, but that moment with the game condensed is crucial.  I don't know who called the plays on the last possession, but that was uninspiring.  S/T looked good for whatever that's worth.

8 minutes ago, NCBull said:

Idk what you mean but we had three players in the end zone who could have caught that Hail Mary.

i mean play to win, not not to lose,   you know what i mean.  don't be coy

10 minutes ago, Bull94 said:

I believe we almost beat UCF last year and we almost beat UF this year. It was coaching too conservative in the end that cost us both. It also cost us tonight.

Fear.  A culture of fear and inadequacy cost us the UF game.  Can't blame the bad snap and the botched hold in the UF game on the coaching.  That was just inherent fear of success.  Someone used the word turtle tonight in another thread,  It's that 100%.  we are turtles.

9 minutes ago, NCBull said:

Pffft what a trash take.  Coaching was not great but de Prato didn’t cost us the game.  We didn’t come with sniffing distance of these wins any other time in the past three years, but with almost our entire starting lineup out we almost beat a ranked opponent at home and it’s the coaching staff’s fault?  **** off with that.  They did the best they could and put us in a position to win.  Absolutely could have made some better calls but putting it at their feet is just disrespectful.  Take the L and blame the right person—xCJS.

give your players a chance on the last possession.  he gone

7 minutes ago, Gismo said:

Did he cost us the game or did he put us in the position to win?

 

who put us down 28-0? that person probably cost us the game. 

Whatever took place prior to that point in time is irrelevant.  The most likely outcome after running Battie 3 times there is to bleed the clock down to 3 minutes with a 1 point lead.  Do we like our chances in that scenario?   No. We do not.  Playing scared is bad business.

4 hours ago, bullsbucsfan426 said:

Thank you! If we don't support our Bulls no one is going to do it for us. Win or lose, 12-0 or 0-12, they need us to grow as a program. 

The win-loss record is not a factor at all, for me.  When I donate my time, money, and energy, I need to see/feel some sort of reciprocation from this program in the form of passion for my alma mater.  Don't see it, the trade-off is broken.

3 hours ago, CousinRicky said:

We really need for you to not jump ship.  As hard as this year as been we need fans to continue to show up.  It isn't easy but we don't need opening day vs Wisconsin to be 15k USF fans and 30k Wisky fans.  Also need to think long term as far as looking as a viable option if another conference does expand.  

Last time I jumped, i had no lapse in my season tickets because leadership stepped up and made a coaching change at the end of that season.  I was back in the stands patiently supporting a 2-10 team the following season.

Here again, I will respond the same way.... if leadership is shown, I will come back.  Until then, I will sit out; its the only card I can play. 

Last night, Strong showed me he is not a Bull (anymore, if ever).

8 minutes ago, GaUSFBull said:

Nice pull on the thread.  I remember my anger when I started this thread.  I'm a little more mellow now but it feels very similar. 

Also, I could have sworn the 4th and 1 in question, we were only down by 7.  Was it one or two scores?

..two scores.  punt resulted in a touchback, no less.

On 11/17/2012 at 5:06 PM, 8u11`o3 said:

Last straw for me... this man is treating our program like a disposable diaper.

Tonight brought me right back here to the last time I jumped ship.  Holtz was gone 2 weeks later. 

For Strong, it was the punt on 4th and 1 at mid-field down 2 scores in the 4th quarter. 

As was the case with Holtz, whether its incompetence, self-doubt, or apathy, or all of the above, I can't support a program that doesn't make an attempt to compete.

1 hour ago, MikeG said:

Tulsa only down 10-0 at half against Arky

23-0 now 

23 minutes ago, Brad said:

 

1)  Strongest Bulls unit, RB or WR?
2)  What do you like most about Blake Barnett?
3)  What concerns you most about Blake Barnett?
4)  Favorite tailgate beverage?
5)  What is your guess on the greatest number of members to sign up at TBP in one day?

1) WR

2) Accuracy in the pocket.

3) Telegraphs passes.

4) Beer

5) 63

GT will beat Clemson, 30-28, on their way to 3-1 and propel undefeated USF into AP Top 25.

9 minutes ago, Ricky the Bull said:

They assumed QF had a lot to do with that success.

Yeah, he certainly did, but at some point, when you see that we are still scoring just as many(more) points as last year, don't you have to make a correction to your voting?  Realize that the loss of Q has been mitigated, admit your oversight, and restore our ranking?

If we put another 40 point W up, on B1G, no less, I would think a conscientious voter in tune with actual events would have to do that.

Final rankings for 2017:

USF 21

Boise St 22

Preseason rankings for 2018:

USF NR

Boise St 22

We finished 2017 strong, reloaded all skill positions on offense.  Is it the loss of Hector/Senat?

8 hours ago, Mama_Bull said:

Well, they also snubbed us last year when were 10-2 with a win over an SEC team South Carolina and that didn't help us with them this year.

Hopefully, we will beat TT and at least stay ranked in the other polls.

I still am doubtful that the CFP will give us the benefit of a doubt next year. I don't think they wanted UCF to beat a ranked USF, since that would have forced them to move UCF more than they would have liked..

 

The CFP chairman was not the AD at South Carolina; I doubt anyone on that committee even watched our bowl last year.

Really though, Mama, I don't expect this game to change the committee's perception of USF much.  The main point of my post was to inform Bulls fans that the pot is sweetened just a little bit with this bowl.  We have an opportunity to bruise the pride of another high and mighty P5 and the CFPC chairman with a win.  We can't make them respect us, but we can make them lose to us.  That is satisfying.  

1 minute ago, Mama_Bull said:

The problem is that the CFP does NOT release a final poll after the bowl games.

 

I realize this year's rankings are done, but the committee is not going away.  He chaired last year, he could chair next year as well. 

Regardless, a win against an opponent aligned with the committee that snubbed us is gravy. 

... is Kirby Hocutt, the CFP Committee Chairman.  Will make a bowl victory even sweeter considering the disinterest shown toward USF by that bunch.  This match up should allow him to gain some familiarity with our program to share with the rest of the CFPC, which they undoubtedly lack up to this point.

We arrived late for the St. Petersburg Bowl.  Spent about 15 minutes in the seats sold to us by the University and then watched the remainder of the game from the Everglades Brewhouse.  Definitely not the bowl experience we've grown to love and expect, but at least our streak is still intact.

1 hour ago, brybull1970 said:

http://www.capitalgazette.com/sports/navy_sports/ac-cs-navy-military-bowl-20171128-story.html

That link was posted in the "Bowl Game - Military" thread yesterday.  Here is another article that counters Beck's statement:

https://www.thedailystampede.com/2017/11/29/16717748/bowlgazing-where-the-bulls-might-play

Fuel for the skeptics:

http://www.capitalgazette.com/sports/navy_sports/ac-cs-navy-military-bowl-20171128-story.html