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  1. 1 hour ago, bullsbucsfan426 said:

    Yes, yes we would, just as the Marshall Center fee eventually went away. I paid that fee. I saw it on my tuition statements for a few years-then not long after it got built, by the time I graduated, it had stopped. 

    If this fee is per semester, you're talking at the low end $6M per year, to possibly as much as $14M-$15M per year (could be over $20M if USF charges for summer semester too). That's not chump change, and assuming we build the $200M stadium that Harlan put out in his proposals, the interest cost (just estimating at 4% per year), would be $8M. You better have some extra funding in place. USF is struggling to raise funds here. The CITF could pay out $15M when the time comes, but it can only be used once (can't be used for debt service, just for initial construction). USF needs to find $50M in donations, then you add the $15M in CITF money, then perhaps the other $135M can be debt serviced. 

    Here is why it's possible it won't go through-the only way that fee is getting approved is through a ballot measure in the student body elections. The soonest SG can do that is the midterm elections in the fall, and it STILL has to pass. Even if you only have 5-8k students voting, it's going to take a lot work-and for whatever reason, USF hasn't gotten enough Greek buyin on football if they're still doing rush in the fall on home game-days. 

    Did the fee go away or did they find another fee to replace it?  I honesty don’t know, but know that it’s rare in fees, tax, etc. for it to truly go away.  Instead they are normally renamed, reassigned, etc 

  2. I want an OCS as much as anyone, but I always find it interesting when someone says “The fee would go away, but the stadium would stay.”  

    Does anyone believe we would give up revenue that is basically accepted once the bonds are paid?  

    We need to have a true fundraising effort for a stadium.  If that’s successful and students feel they want to pitch in (more than then large % they already do today) then maybe that’s ok.

  3. 1 minute ago, usf97 said:

    Maybe lately but UCF has had a joke of an Athletic Department for a long, long time. They killed an athlete. Were found guilty and negligent. They turned down joining CUSA because they wanted to join the SEC.

    Have you ever read this article? https://www.thedailystampede.com/2013/11/27/5139312/x-good-reasons-to-hate-ucf

     

    I was there too.  In the early 2000’s until the most recent administrations, I would agree.  We were stealth and calculated, while they needed to put on a big show to get noticed and in my opinion rushes their stadium, etc.  

    However, we didn’t capitalize enough on our early success and relied on the nostalgia of the “good ol’ days” and “sleeping giant” of young program.  Our past admin gave bad contracts, did little to stabilize the programs, and burnt bridges with the community.  The current one doesn’t seem to understand the culture and is not nearly as agreesive or proactive as we need.  I’m sure I’m not 100% right, but TODAYS Admin of UCF is rubbing circles around USFs.  And in college athletics lately is all that matters, especially since we don’t have history to sell.

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  4. 3 hours ago, charsibb said:

    Don't like it. It's age discrimination.

    USF probably has a lot more SOTA (students over traditional age) than Oregon does, given our urban vs. their rural environment.

     

    It’s not age discrimination and their offer isn’t solely alumni based (although it will be the majority of takers). 

    Either way we don’t have to literally copy it, but could adapt the methodology to years post graduation and or age based tickets.  

    I like the age as an option because it offers the opportunity for non-alumn (military, community college, University of Tampa, etc.) to buy tix as their life and income progress.   I know for a fact that at 22 I struggled to afford season tickets at regular price. Many times got companion tix, scalped, used a friends student ID, etc.   At a price around $100 I would have made the plunge easily.  

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