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    Doug has no vision for the athletic program that extends beyond its own zip code. The last 5 years have been critical for conference expansion and USF has done little, outside of facilities, to position itself for the next step. In the most critical and measurable way - football - USF has played itself out of the conversation and has been left behind.

     

    How will the university fund a competitive athletic department when the future TV contract is peanuts, attendance based on near-term performance will surely drop, and the man responsible for it all is has no clue how to dig us out of the hole that he is primarily responsible for creating?

     

    It starts at the top.

     

     

    Talk about minimizing one of the hardest to achieve and most crucial aspects of moving up.

     

    everybody in the country is building new facilities. please don't act like this guy is some savior for pilfering the students of nearly $15M per year.

     

    maybe we should get rid of the AD entirely, save the $700k+ and keep the library open later. we are an academic institution afterall.

     

    No, everyone isn't, especially in this economy with banks limiting lending.

     

    if you think banks are limiting lending then you live in a different world than I do. money is cheap and plentiful right now. look around the country. schools are going crazy building new facilities. I could go down the list of just schools in our crappy conference that are throwing tens of millions into athletic buildings. smu, houston, ucf, etc.

     

     

    You do realize we aren't talking "right now" but in the years of the financial crisis a few years back when the funding and planning was happening?

     

    dude has been getting $15M + per year from students. if you think his budget has been limited then you are delusional. BTW banks had no problem lending for all but about 6 months worth of time and they certainly didn't have a problem lending to government institutions with over a $40M per year budget.

     

    do you have any idea how incredibly low our overall athletics budget is compared to the big boys? 

     

    BINGO!

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    I still believe in my heart of hearts we are not headed to the B12. The best case (and most likely) scenario is us being in the AAC / MWC merger of best available and the new amalgam being drafted into the D4, or whatever in the hell it will be.

    Dude, how can you say that's the "best case scenario"? AAC/MWC will still be the Big East of BCS. A total laughing joke. Best case is for us in a legit conf.

     

     Because I really don't think we are going to the B12.  Because honestly, I'd rather play the best of what the MWC has than several of the teams in the American as it is currently comprised.

     

    I don't know if you were dropped on your head when you were a baby or something else happened to you, but if you would rather be in the AAC/MWC leftover scrub conf than the B12 you have major mental problems. Just sayin

     

    You must have a reading comprehension problem ... BB's saying he doesn't think we're going to the B12 so he's giving his best case scenario in light of that ... at least that's what it looks like he's saying in those posts.

     

    Maybe you have a comprehension problem. He said "I'd rather play the best of what the MWC /AAC...." Get it?

     

    He'd rather play in the best of those two conferences than just the AAC IF we're not going to the Big 12 is what I think he's saying in those posts... 

     

    He doesn't think we will end up in the Big12 so HE WOULD RATHER US BE IN THE LEFTOVER CONF OF THE MWC/AAC. Is it just me? Help me out here people.

     

     

    You do understand that that statement doesn't say he prefers the leftover conference to the Big 12, right? .... No, I guess you don't. I'm not sure what Balto has said previously but in these posts you're having trouble with it appears that he's saying we're not going to the Big 12 so his best case scenario is a MWC/AAC combo rather than just the AAC we're going to be in.

     

     

     

    I believe I know Balto's stance better than anyone on here because I always tell him he's the ONLY ONE WHO FEELS THAT WAY ON THIS BOARD.

     

    When there were talks of a split between P5 and the rest of FBS, Balto prefers us to be in the rest of FBS because he does not think we can afford to play with the P5.

     

    If given the chance between the B12 and the AAC/MWC, Balto prefers us to be in the AAC/MWC.

     

     

    Correct. I do not believe we can afford to play (and be competitive) in the B12. To me, it doesn't make sense. I sent Hem a LONG email months ago explaining exactly why I feel this way. As I recall, Hem did not necessarily agree with me, but I think he understood where I was coming from.

     

    Making more money doesn't mean we'll actually have more money - it just means that we will be paying more money to keep up with the Joneses, which given the "windfall" we received as members of the BCS Big East, we proved we had a hard time keeping up then. 

     

    I believe we would be fodder in the B12. Essentially, the same as we were in the BE. USF becomes nothing more than a recruiting trip for Texas and Oklahoma. 

     

    That being said, I completely understand if the invite comes - we take it. 

     

    To me, being in a D4 conference, if that's where the division ends up being with other, like-minded, urban-based research universities is preferable. I truly don't understand where we fit culturally into the B12. 

     

    I will go further and state unequivocally, even if we were in the B12, we would not be playing for a national championship any time soon - if ever. Politics, branding and perception combined are too great of an obstacle to overcome, in my opinion.

     

    What I would like to see, realistically, is what the bowl situation would be with a new, hybrid AAC/MWC conference. I do think the current AAC bowl situation sucks. I would hope that a hybrid conference would have their pick of both conferences bowls as well as the ability to snatch a "lower" P5 bowl.  

     

    To some of you, being able to play for the mythical "national championship" is key and most important. For me, having the ability to travel to games nearby (I assume UCF, Memphis and ECU would be at the party) and having a realistic shot at a DECENT bowl - again, I am no fan of our current bowl line-up is what I'd like to have. 

     

    If the D4 split happens and the AAC/MWC "cream" conference comes to be, I believe this is the best outcome.

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    I still believe in my heart of hearts we are not headed to the B12.

     

    The best case (and most likely) scenario is us being in the AAC / MWC merger of best available and the new amalgam being drafted into the D4, or whatever in the hell it will be.

    Dude, how can you say that's the "best case scenario"? AAC/MWC will still be the Big East of BCS. A total laughing joke. Best case is for us in a legit conf.

     

     

    Because I really don't think we are going to the B12. 

     

    Because honestly, I'd rather play the best of what the MWC has than several of the teams in the American as it is currently comprised.

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    @MHver3: Both Espn and fox are encouraging B12 to think about 14 or even 16. Will keep payouts same! Any current MWC or AAC team. IF D4 or split.

    @mitchbalhorn: @MHver3 Where does BYU lie in expansion lineup? BYU and Cincy are the frontrunners, right?

    @MHver3: @mitchbalhorn correct. But I believe USF to be the next in.

     

    Does he mean

    1. usf

    2. byu

    3. cincy

     

    or 

     

    1. byu

    2.cincy

    3. usf

     

    My interpretation is USF ahead of BYU and Cincy based on the question. 

     

     

    USF the next in?

     

    I gave up on this guy long ago. Quick question - does anyone have a rough idea how often this guy has proven to be correct? 40%? 50%?

  5. I thought this was an interesting read. Could the ramifications of the O'Bannon case be what's behind the scuttlebutt of the "P5" breaking from the NCAA?

     

    And if it's not, could the teams that can survive taking the hit on likenesses and / or television revenue be the ultimate dividing line of the "division 4" and everyone else?

     

    I'm not claiming to know anything and I'm not looking to stir things up. I read this article this morning and those were the first things that came to mind.

     

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323446404579010513489442936.html?mod=WSJ_LifeStyle_Lifestyle_6

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    I don't want Louisville playing for any championship.  I want us to give them a beat down.

     

     

    Go Bulls!

     

    If that does happy, I'm sure the spin won't be about how good we are....

     

     

    Just like how Florida couldn't muster the wherewithal to play Louisville in their bowl game, the excuse will be Louisville couldn't be bothered to "really play" USF.

     

    When you realize CFB is a game you can't win unless you are one of the anointed, things become a lot easier.

  7. They didn't do the AAC I guess we are chump change however Louisville is considered in the top five in the country. Interesting about this, would love to see them play for the championship make everybody eat their words Go Bulls we're going to play with a tude! Ain't NOOOBODY better!

     

    All they will say is they are too good for the AAC and that is why they are moving to a "better" conference.

     

    Actually, I would HATE for them to do well. 

  8. I'm still not sure USF is headed to the B12. To me, it made sense for a fleeting moment and now it does not. 

     

    Cincy will never do anything significant in the B12, IMO.

     

    I am excited about the idea of the "best" of AAC & MWC merging - the Metro, at last?

     

    I am curious how, if this comes to fruition how money is going to change hands once again.

     

    Dumb question, if Cincy does bolt - do they give up their BE exit money windfall?

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    AAC - MWC merger is still one that the networks won't pay for. USF needs to get into a conference that has a few brand name programs... Every P5 conference has at least two universities that have some brand name behind them... the AAC does not, and that is the problem. We need a brand name.

    Other than what slpsi63 recommended with the addition of BYU, what brand names do you recommend? Navy, Air Force and Boise are probably the best brand names USF can hope to attach themselves to given what we ARE WORKING WITH.
    What I am saying is that we need to be attached to Texas, Oklahoma, LSU, Alabama, Florida State, Miami, USC, Oregon, Michigan, or Ohio State type of brand name, and we can only do that if we get into the P5. In the meantime, we need to dominate our conference and become a brand name of our own as best we can.

     

    We could do that quicker by beating teams like BYU, BSU, Cincy, instead of Tulane, Swap some crap out and replace it with better teams.

     

     Right.

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    AAC - MWC merger is still one that the networks won't pay for. USF needs to get into a conference that has a few brand name programs... Every P5 conference has at least two universities that have some brand name behind them... the AAC does not, and that is the problem. We need a brand name.

    Other than what slpsi63 recommended with the addition of BYU, what brand names do you recommend? Navy, Air Force and Boise are probably the best brand names USF can hope to attach themselves to given what we ARE WORKING WITH.
    What I am saying is that we need to be attached to Texas, Oklahoma, LSU, Alabama, Florida State, Miami, USC, Oregon, Michigan, or Ohio State type of brand name, and we can only do that if we get into the P5. In the meantime, we need to dominate our conference and become a brand name of our own as best we can.

     

    Understood.

  11. AAC - MWC merger is still one that the networks won't pay for. USF needs to get into a conference that has a few brand name programs... Every P5 conference has at least two universities that have some brand name behind them... the AAC does not, and that is the problem. We need a brand name. 

     

    Other than what slpsi63 recommended with the addition of BYU, what brand names do you recommend? Navy, Air Force and Boise are probably the best brand names USF can hope to attach themselves to given what we ARE WORKING WITH.

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    I still think the AAC and the MWC merge and finally do the Areseco thing, like I've been hoping.

     

    If there is scuttlebutt about the P5 becoming the P4 eventually, wouldn't it stand to reason the two conferences merged would (could) become the "fifth" conference? As unrealistic as it seems now, I'd still like to see the AAC and MWC merge and form their own division.

     

    For those who care about being on the "inside", I think the two conferences merged together might be the last chance to get on the boat.

     

    I hope the AAC and MWC come to their senses, merge and form one conference. 

     

     

    I sort of agree with your example, but it can't be all of the AAC and MWC. There is no place for Tulane at the big boys table. Now if you made a conference out of the "best of the rest" it might be able to talk about deserving a seat at the table.

     

     

    It depends how many teams are needed to keep up I think, Mike. Currently, there are 12 teams in the WMC and 10 in the AAC. 16 is the magic number everyone is talking about now is talking about now, right?

     

    Playing musical chairs, looking at the teams available, what do you think a "super" AAC & MWC conference should look like?

     

    - USF

    - UCF

    - Air Force

    - Colorado St.

    - Boise

    - Fresno

    - San Diego

    - Cincy

    - UCONN

    - Houston

    - SMU

    - Navy

    - Memphis

    - Temple

    - ECU

    - Tulsa

     

    I could live with this conference

     

    Replace one with BYU and it might be a **** good conference. Take Colorado St out?

    West:

    - Air Force

    - BYU

    - Boise

    - Fresno

    - San Diego

    - Houston

    - SMU

    - Tulsa

    East

    - USF

    - UCF

    - Cincy

    - UCONN

    - Navy

    - Memphis

    - Temple

    - ECU

     

    Not too bad...

     

     

    What is nice about this league, is that it can be all sports .... where you play your division 80-90% of the time. Thus, travel costs aren't outrageous.

     

     

    That's kind of what I'm thinking. It's quite reasonable.

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    I still think the AAC and the MWC merge and finally do the Areseco thing, like I've been hoping.

     

    If there is scuttlebutt about the P5 becoming the P4 eventually, wouldn't it stand to reason the two conferences merged would (could) become the "fifth" conference? As unrealistic as it seems now, I'd still like to see the AAC and MWC merge and form their own division.

     

    For those who care about being on the "inside", I think the two conferences merged together might be the last chance to get on the boat.

     

    I hope the AAC and MWC come to their senses, merge and form one conference. 

     

     

    I sort of agree with your example, but it can't be all of the AAC and MWC. There is no place for Tulane at the big boys table. Now if you made a conference out of the "best of the rest" it might be able to talk about deserving a seat at the table.

     

     

    It depends how many teams are needed to keep up I think, Mike. Currently, there are 12 teams in the WMC and 10 in the AAC. 16 is the magic number everyone is talking about now is talking about now, right?

     

    Playing musical chairs, looking at the teams available, what do you think a "super" AAC & MWC conference should look like?

     

    - USF

    - UCF

    - Air Force

    - Colorado St.

    - Boise

    - Fresno

    - San Diego

    - Cincy

    - UCONN

    - Houston

    - SMU

    - Navy

    - Memphis

    - Temple

    - ECU

    - Tulsa

     

    I could live with this conference

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  14. I still think the AAC and the MWC merge and finally do the Areseco thing, like I've been hoping.

     

    If there is scuttlebutt about the P5 becoming the P4 eventually, wouldn't it stand to reason the two conferences merged would (could) become the "fifth" conference? As unrealistic as it seems now, I'd still like to see the AAC and MWC merge and form their own division.

     

    For those who care about being on the "inside", I think the two conferences merged together might be the last chance to get on the boat.

     

    I hope the AAC and MWC come to their senses, merge and form one conference. 

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