The Big 12 Conference Should Add USF And UCF Before Anyone Else

[Skingraft]

^^^^^^^^ Boom

[Sellular1]

And besides, 99% of USF fans DO NOT WANT to be in the B12. They're willing to hold their nose because it's the last obvious P5 slot, but the ACC is the dream home.

Heck, even the American - with equal level of funding - would be preferable to the B12.

You don't get it. The American is dead. Programs stuck in the AAC conference will NEVER SNIFF A TOP 4 Ranking. The P5 is stopping the playing of G5 schools. SOS means everything.

[Rocky Style]

And besides, 99% of USF fans DO NOT WANT to be in the B12. They're willing to hold their nose because it's the last obvious P5 slot, but the ACC is the dream home.

Heck, even the American - with equal level of funding - would be preferable to the B12.

You don't get it. The American is dead. Programs stuck in the AAC conference will NEVER SNIFF A TOP 4 Ranking. The P5 is stopping the playing of G5 schools. SOS means everything.

ACC is the dream home but I think a big 12 with WVU and UCF each year would be interesting.

[Dogma]

 

And besides, 99% of USF fans DO NOT WANT to be in the B12. They're willing to hold their nose because it's the last obvious P5 slot, but the ACC is the dream home.

Heck, even the American - with equal level of funding - would be preferable to the B12.

You don't get it. The American is dead. Programs stuck in the AAC conference will NEVER SNIFF A TOP 4 Ranking. The P5 is stopping the playing of G5 schools. SOS means everything.

 

 

Charsibb is correct

 

Equal funding would push the prestige of the AAC

The main reason teams bailed was $$$.  That is what led to the decline/end/split of OBEast and birth of the AAC.

 

If ESPN would pay the AAC the same amount as a "P5" conference, then they would be pimping the AAC out as much as them (meaning bowl game access, TV, etc)

...And suddenly, "magically", AAC teams would be considered much stronger SoS opponents (being that rankings are pretty much arbitrary anyways)

And the AAC would then be considered a "P6" conference

 

ESPN is the puppeteer of CFB, they pull the strings behind the scenes.

They wouldn't pay a conference as much just to push/keep them down

[Sellular1]

And besides, 99% of USF fans DO NOT WANT to be in the B12. They're willing to hold their nose because it's the last obvious P5 slot, but the ACC is the dream home.

Heck, even the American - with equal level of funding - would be preferable to the B12.

You don't get it. The American is dead. Programs stuck in the AAC conference will NEVER SNIFF A TOP 4 Ranking. The P5 is stopping the playing of G5 schools. SOS means everything.

 

Charsibb is correct

 

Equal funding would push the prestige of the AAC

The main reason teams bailed was $$$.  That is what led to the decline/end/split of OBEast and birth of the AAC.

 

If ESPN would pay the AAC the same amount as a "P5" conference, then they would be pimping the AAC out as much as them (meaning bowl game access, TV, etc)

...And suddenly, "magically", AAC teams would be considered much stronger SoS opponents (being that rankings are pretty much arbitrary anyways)

And the AAC would then be considered a "P6" conference

 

ESPN is the puppeteer of CFB, they pull the strings behind the scenes.

They wouldn't pay a conference as much just to push/keep them down

What you're talking about is making the AAC into what the Big East already was. How did that work out?

[Sellular1]

And besides, 99% of USF fans DO NOT WANT to be in the B12. They're willing to hold their nose because it's the last obvious P5 slot, but the ACC is the dream home.

Heck, even the American - with equal level of funding - would be preferable to the B12.

You don't get it. The American is dead. Programs stuck in the AAC conference will NEVER SNIFF A TOP 4 Ranking. The P5 is stopping the playing of G5 schools. SOS means everything.

 

Charsibb is correct

 

Equal funding would push the prestige of the AAC

The main reason teams bailed was $$$.  That is what led to the decline/end/split of OBEast and birth of the AAC.

 

If ESPN would pay the AAC the same amount as a "P5" conference, then they would be pimping the AAC out as much as them (meaning bowl game access, TV, etc)

...And suddenly, "magically", AAC teams would be considered much stronger SoS opponents (being that rankings are pretty much arbitrary anyways)

And the AAC would then be considered a "P6" conference

 

ESPN is the puppeteer of CFB, they pull the strings behind the scenes.

They wouldn't pay a conference as much just to push/keep them down

You're obviously dreaming that somehow, someone is going to magically pay the same amount for the AAC as they do the Big10. Since it is just a dream why not dream bigger and expect the AAC to get MORE money than the other conferences and that Ohio State and a Texas will be forced to join the AAC?

[Dogma]

 

 

 

And besides, 99% of USF fans DO NOT WANT to be in the B12. They're willing to hold their nose because it's the last obvious P5 slot, but the ACC is the dream home.

Heck, even the American - with equal level of funding - would be preferable to the B12.

You don't get it. The American is dead. Programs stuck in the AAC conference will NEVER SNIFF A TOP 4 Ranking. The P5 is stopping the playing of G5 schools. SOS means everything.

 

Charsibb is correct

 

Equal funding would push the prestige of the AAC

The main reason teams bailed was $$$.  That is what led to the decline/end/split of OBEast and birth of the AAC.

 

If ESPN would pay the AAC the same amount as a "P5" conference, then they would be pimping the AAC out as much as them (meaning bowl game access, TV, etc)

...And suddenly, "magically", AAC teams would be considered much stronger SoS opponents (being that rankings are pretty much arbitrary anyways)

And the AAC would then be considered a "P6" conference

 

ESPN is the puppeteer of CFB, they pull the strings behind the scenes.

They wouldn't pay a conference as much just to push/keep them down

You're obviously dreaming that somehow, someone is going to magically pay the same amount for the AAC as they do the Big10. Since it is just a dream why not dream bigger and expect the AAC to get MORE money than the other conferences and that Ohio State and a Texas will be forced to join the AAC?

 

 

Reading comprehension issues?

 

Where did I (or Charsibb) ever say we expect that to happen ( I know I didn't, please feel free to point out where I did.)

I'm referring to Chars speculation, which is correct.  It doesn't mean it will ever come anywhere close to a slight possibility.

[Dogma]

 

 

 

And besides, 99% of USF fans DO NOT WANT to be in the B12. They're willing to hold their nose because it's the last obvious P5 slot, but the ACC is the dream home.

Heck, even the American - with equal level of funding - would be preferable to the B12.

You don't get it. The American is dead. Programs stuck in the AAC conference will NEVER SNIFF A TOP 4 Ranking. The P5 is stopping the playing of G5 schools. SOS means everything.

 

Charsibb is correct

 

Equal funding would push the prestige of the AAC

The main reason teams bailed was $$$.  That is what led to the decline/end/split of OBEast and birth of the AAC.

 

If ESPN would pay the AAC the same amount as a "P5" conference, then they would be pimping the AAC out as much as them (meaning bowl game access, TV, etc)

...And suddenly, "magically", AAC teams would be considered much stronger SoS opponents (being that rankings are pretty much arbitrary anyways)

And the AAC would then be considered a "P6" conference

 

ESPN is the puppeteer of CFB, they pull the strings behind the scenes.

They wouldn't pay a conference as much just to push/keep them down

What you're talking about is making the AAC into what the Big East already was. How did that work out?

 

 

 

The Old BEast wasn't paid anywhere near the same out any of the "P5" conferences were.

Which is why teams bolted.

 

Per School (2012):

BEast - 3.18 million

B10 - 19.7 - 22 million

B12 - 20 million

Pac12 - 20 million (30 - 50 million with the PAC12 network)

SEC - 17.1 million (in contract negotiations to increase an additional 10 - 20 million)

$17.1 million

ACC - 17.1 million

 

 

 

 

ACC

15 years, $3.6 billion, ESPN (through 2027)

Annual: $240 million

Average Annual per School: $17.1 million

Notes: ACC also expected to take it’s own share, bringing the average per school annual payout to $16 million per year

 

 

 

Big East

6 years, $200 million, ABC/ESPN [CBS contributes $9 million of total] (through 2013)

Annual: $40 million

Average Annual per School: $3.18 million for football schools, $1.56 million for non-football schools

Notes: Big East is next conference up for renewal. Total is expected to be far below the $1.4 billion they turned down.

 

 

 

Big Ten

10 years, $1 billion, ABC/ESPN (through 2016)

25 years, +$2.8 billion, Big Ten Network (through 2032)

6 years, $145 million, Fox (B1G championship game through 2016)

Annual: $236 million

Average Annual per School: $19.7-$22 million

 

 

 

 

Big 12

13 years, $1.2 billion, Fox (through 2025)

13 years, $1.4 billion, ABC/ESPN (through 2025)

Annual: $200 million

Average Annual per School: $20 million

Notes: Schools control Tier 3 rights, so each school can gain even more annual revenue on it’s own. Also worth noting, that the 10 schools are expected to extend their rights waiver for the additional years, 13 in total. So no members would be leaving the Big 12 knowing that they would risk losing so much revenue. Expansion is on the table for the Big 12, especially given the large revenue bump. So if the right 2 schools were available, the Big 12 would expand and renegotiate it’s television fees beforehand. Florida St., Notre Dame and Clemson remain at the top of the wish list while Louisville remains the more likely initial candidate.

 

 

 

Pac-12

12 years, $2.7 billion, Fox/ABC/ESPN (through 2024)

Annual: $225 million (* $505 million potential)

Average Annual per School: $20.2 million ($18.8 million from Fox/ABC/ESPN  with $30-$50 million projected with Pac-12 Network)

* Pac-12 Network: the network will launch in 2012 with a primary network and 6 regional networks. Revenue projections combined are expected to be in the same range if not more than the Big Ten Network, which produces $280 million per year at $11 million per school.

Notes:  New members Utah and Colorado receive 50% share in 2012, 75% share in 2012, 100% share in 2014

 

 

 

SEC

15 years, $2.25 billion, ESPN (through 2024)

15 years, $825 million, CBS (through 2024)

Annual: $205 million

Average Annual per School: $17.1 million

Notes: contract is expected to be renegotiated in time with the additions of Texas A&M and Missouri, likely before the 2024 expiration. The SEC may be on it’s way to starting it’s own network that depending on future additions, could gain the conference and additional $10-$20 million per school per year). While the SEC currently ranks below 4 other conferences in revenue, that is expected to change sooner than later.

- See more at: http://collegesportsinfo.com/2012/05/10/2012-ncaa-television-revenue-by-conference/#sthash.JTq14F5R.dpuf

 

http://collegesportsinfo.com/2012/05/10/2012-ncaa-television-revenue-by-conference/

Edited December 15, 2014 by Dogma

[Ghost]

I would love the B12. I wouldnt mind the AAC if we were better lol. It is just the prestige thing. Honestly, I really like the teams and locations of our conference. Memphis, Orlando, Dallas, Cincy, Houston, and I'm sure the ones I missed are a good time. In comparison, you have Waco, Norman, Lubbock, Stillwater...again I am sure there is some good stuff in each of these, but I prefer the AAC in that regard. We just need to get better. I think conference fandom is idiotic, but in our case, it actually has a purpose. If we have 3-5 ranked teams every year, with maybe one in the top 10 like UCF last year, we will garner more attention and be able to attract a better TV contract and SOS points. 

[Sellular1]

And besides, 99% of USF fans DO NOT WANT to be in the B12. They're willing to hold their nose because it's the last obvious P5 slot, but the ACC is the dream home.

Heck, even the American - with equal level of funding - would be preferable to the B12.

You don't get it. The American is dead. Programs stuck in the AAC conference will NEVER SNIFF A TOP 4 Ranking. The P5 is stopping the playing of G5 schools. SOS means everything.

 

Charsibb is correct

 

Equal funding would push the prestige of the AAC

The main reason teams bailed was $$$.  That is what led to the decline/end/split of OBEast and birth of the AAC.

 

If ESPN would pay the AAC the same amount as a "P5" conference, then they would be pimping the AAC out as much as them (meaning bowl game access, TV, etc)

...And suddenly, "magically", AAC teams would be considered much stronger SoS opponents (being that rankings are pretty much arbitrary anyways)

And the AAC would then be considered a "P6" conference

 

ESPN is the puppeteer of CFB, they pull the strings behind the scenes.

They wouldn't pay a conference as much just to push/keep them down

You're obviously dreaming that somehow, someone is going to magically pay the same amount for the AAC as they do the Big10. Since it is just a dream why not dream bigger and expect the AAC to get MORE money than the other conferences and that Ohio State and a Texas will be forced to join the AAC?

 

Reading comprehension issues?

 

Where did I (or Charsibb) ever say we expect that to happen ( I know I didn't, please feel free to point out where I did.)

I'm referring to Chars speculation, which is correct.  It doesn't mean it will ever come anywhere close to a slight possibility.

If you're admittedly talking about stuff that you that you don't think will ever be a possibility why not wish for Ohio State and Texas to join the AAC while you're at it? All I was saying.