bball: coaching vs. recruiting?

[Flowers4Heisman]

Great coaching or great recruiting, which do you think is more important for USF bball?

 

Personally, I think we've been bad for so long because we've not been able to recruit well enough.

 

[JTrue]

Well, I know what a top 25 class is capable of on its own with not to good coaching, so I'm going to say coaching beats recruiting.

[DELdaBull]

We will find out more tonight

[Fold FB Invest in BB]

Well, I know what a top 25 class is capable of on its own with not to good coaching, so I'm going to say coaching beats recruiting.

 

2/5ths of that top 25 class took a red shirt. And lets be real, there's a big difference between the top 25 class we pulled in and getting 6 of the top 25 high school kids in the country.

 

You need coaching and recruiting to succeed, but more importantly, if you cannot pull in the best of the best like Kentucky, you need guys that can play to the coaching style. Last year was trying to force a square peg in a round hole. If you have a 6-10 center with a 40" vertical, Vic Rudd and Corey Allen Jr as your best players, you should be running up and down the court.

[charsibb]

Coaching trumps recruiting.

 

On occasion, a highly talented team can beat a well-coached on talent alone.

 

Quite often, a disciplined well-coached team can beat a more talented team by proper execution.

 

As it was said about Bear Bryant, "He'll beat your'n with hiz'n, then turn around and beat hiz'n with your'n"

[Apis Bull]

Coaching trumps recruiting.

 

On occasion, a highly talented team can beat a well-coached on talent alone.

 

Quite often, a disciplined well-coached team can beat a more talented team by proper execution.

 

As it was said about Bear Bryant, "He'll beat your'n with hiz'n, then turn around and beat hiz'n with your'n"

 

I don't think that's as true in basketball.  A bad coach can get in his players way.

[JTrue]

 

Well, I know what a top 25 class is capable of on its own with not to good coaching, so I'm going to say coaching beats recruiting.

 

2/5ths of that top 25 class took a red shirt. And lets be real, there's a big difference between the top 25 class we pulled in and getting 6 of the top 25 high school kids in the country.

And 3/5 of that class lost to Detroit, who's 2013 class was unranked since it fell outside of the top 179.

 

And for comparison, here are the last 3 years of recruiting (using 24/7's composite numbers. 2010 doesn't work right on the site) for a couple schools who did ok this year.

 

Manhattan 69, unranked, 93

Wichita State 95, unranked, unranked

[JTrue]

Coaching trumps recruiting.

 

On occasion, a highly talented team can beat a well-coached on talent alone.

 

Quite often, a disciplined well-coached team can beat a more talented team by proper execution.

 

As it was said about Bear Bryant, "He'll beat your'n with hiz'n, then turn around and beat hiz'n with your'n"

I would take a top 25 coach over a top 25 recruiting class every time.

[Triple B]

 

 

Well, I know what a top 25 class is capable of on its own with not to good coaching, so I'm going to say coaching beats recruiting.

 

2/5ths of that top 25 class took a red shirt. And lets be real, there's a big difference between the top 25 class we pulled in and getting 6 of the top 25 high school kids in the country.

 

And 3/5 of that class lost to Detroit, who's 2013 class was unranked since it fell outside of the top 179.

 

 

In reality, it was only 2/5 of the class that lost to Detroit. Josh didn't play .... but still definitely a game they should have won regardless.

[charsibb]

 

Coaching trumps recruiting.

 

On occasion, a highly talented team can beat a well-coached on talent alone.

 

Quite often, a disciplined well-coached team can beat a more talented team by proper execution.

 

As it was said about Bear Bryant, "He'll beat your'n with hiz'n, then turn around and beat hiz'n with your'n"

 

I don't think that's as true in basketball.  A bad coach can get in his players way.

 

 

And how does that contradict what I said? Good coaches improve players, bad coaches destroy them...