charsibb Posted April 2, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 653 Content Count: 31,049 Reputation: 2,487 Days Won: 172 Joined: 08/30/2011 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Not sure who Dave Williams is but his reply to Jones is classic. Jones' previous column WAS pretty ignorant, but this one gives a bit of grudging props to Harlan and Antigua. But whatever goodwill was drained by their choice of photo. Probably several dozen photos to choose from, and they go with a chagrined look.http://www.tampabay.com/sports/basketball/college/usf-athletic-director-mark-harlan-rights-ship-after-rough-start/2173066 TAMPA — Good thing USF announced a new basketball coach Tuesday. Had it waited one more day, new athletic director Mark Harlan would have been out of suits to wear to the news conference. "I'm down to the wire," said Harlan, who has been living on the edge and out of a suitcase since starting his job March 24. "This is my last one. This is it." Of course, had this whole hiring thing been done right in the first place, Harlan wouldn't have run out of clothes. All this jazz would have been wrapped up a week ago. This isn't exactly how Harlan envisioned his first week and half as an AD. "I think there are always moments when you look at yourself in the mirror and you say, 'Okay, is it going the way it needs to go?' '' Harlan said. "And I would be disingenuous if said I didn't have a few of those moments." Did it go the way anyone associated with USF wanted it to go? USF folks grit their teeth and put on a stubborn front, but the answer, if everyone was being honest, was a resounding no. Maybe it wasn't avoidable. Maybe USF did its best. Maybe the process worked the way it was supposed to. I would argue against all of those things, but it really doesn't matter. The bottom line was, literally, embarrassing. Every time you saw USF in the crawl at the bottom of ESPN, it was about how another coach wasn't being hired. Even Harlan admits the past two weeks have felt like a year. Well, the storm has passed. For now. The Bulls finally have a coach who a.) wanted the job and b.) didn't have to lie to get it. If this was baseball, USF was down in the count 0-and-2. Strike one: Manhattan coach Steve Masiello was found to have lied about having his college degree after USF offered him the job and "agreed in principle" to a deal. Strike two: USF, according to some reports, offered the job to UNLV coach Dave Rice, who, it would seem, was only interested in getting a raise and stayed at UNLV when he got it. So down to its last strike, USF took a mighty swing and hired someone who has never been a college head coach — University of Kentucky assistant Orlando Antigua. It's far too early to see if Bulls have hit a homer. Antigua has a solid resume, looks the part and he certainly sounded great in the news conference. Then again, don't all coaches sound great in the news conference? Coaches are pretty much undefeated in the news conference. Even Stan Heath sounded like John Wooden in the news conference. At least Antigua recognizes that. "Talk is cheap," Antigua said. "You've got to show." Antigua is an interesting man. He was born in the Dominican Republic, raised in the Bronx and schooled in Pittsburgh. (And, yes, for the record, he does have his degree from Pitt.) He played for the Globetrotters. He was once shot in the head. He was homeless for a while as a youngster. It's all rather inspiring. But if he can't recruit and develop and win, all that other stuff doesn't mean a thing. That might sound cold and harsh, but this isn't a Saturday morning church league where everyone gets a snow cone after the game. This is college basketball and it's high time USF joins the fun. It will try to do so with a coach who was not the school's first or even second choice. "I think I was my wife's second choice, too, but it worked out," Antigua joked. "We've been together 20 years." As far as Harlan goes, he deserves high marks for rallying Tuesday. He faced the music, answered the questions, took on responsibility. He didn't blame the search committee for anything. He admits he changed the process after the Masiello misstep. He said he was discouraged at times. He didn't fire back at critics even if he thought they might have been unfair. "I think criticism is fair," Harlan said. "It's part of this job. A lot of what I was reading wasn't necessarily accurate, but that's part of the deal, too." And in the end? "I don't think anything blew up in my face," Harlan said. Some athletic directors are on the job for years without having to replace a football or basketball coach. Harlan had to start his job early to try to find someone to fix a basketball program that seems eternally broken. None of this was easy and none of it went smoothly. "I would say it has been an interesting experience," Harland said. "There is a lot of richness in it. … Now that we are here at this date, it feels great." Ultimately, Harlan believes the process worked and after all the drama, USF ended up with the right coach. Let's hope so. No one wants to see USF go through this again anytime soon. USF athletic director Mark Harlan rights ship after rough start 04/01/14 [Last modified: Wednesday, April 2, 2014 12:12am] © 2014 Tampa Bay Times Post a new comment Login Post 2 Comments RSS|Subscribe Tom Wharton1 hour ago I feel like I read this article every 30 months. USF is hiring a new coach for a sports team and program that is in shambles. Wake me up when it's over... Robert McCollum, Stan Heath, Skip Holtz, Lelo Prado, Antigua, a new soccer coach, a new volleyball coach a new athletic director. Heck...the ran the only game that has ever won at a major level out of town. Jim Leavitt - we miss you buddy. Reply 0 0 Dave Williams5 hours ago Tom Jones, you showed your complete ignorance about hiring practices used throughout the free world when last week you blamed Harlan and USF for not vetting the previous candidate--you know, the one they never hired, never announced? Essentially, you blamed everyone for yourself being a fool. That is not uncommon for you, as you are already known as someone who blabbers about things you know nothing about. Like sports for example--you are completely clueless. But about USF and Harlan, after throwing out the insult about how it should have been done right a week ago (again with you looking like a fool), today you wrote "Maybe it wasn't avoidable. Maybe USF did its best. Maybe the process worked the way it was supposed to." Know this: worse than being an ignorant fool is being stubborn and disgraceful when you are plain dead wrong. There is no "maybe" here. Wow, what an oxygen thief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaUSFBull Posted April 2, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 263 Content Count: 24,750 Reputation: 3,107 Days Won: 87 Joined: 12/15/2009 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Boom goes the dynamite. Was Jones one of the ones who ran with Masiello's "hiring" as USF MBB coach as breaking news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Posted April 2, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 52 Content Count: 4,318 Reputation: 628 Days Won: 19 Joined: 03/16/2013 Share Posted April 2, 2014 whoa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted April 2, 2014 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,559 Content Count: 70,139 Reputation: 8,794 Days Won: 391 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted April 2, 2014 This is why Jones is, and always will be, an assclown .... Of course, had this whole hiring thing been done right in the first place, Harlan wouldn't have run out of clothes. All this jazz would have been wrapped up a week ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDYZR Posted April 2, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 462 Content Count: 11,402 Reputation: 2,273 Days Won: 23 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted April 2, 2014 What does an English geriatric singer know about USF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaUSFBull Posted April 2, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 263 Content Count: 24,750 Reputation: 3,107 Days Won: 87 Joined: 12/15/2009 Share Posted April 2, 2014 What does an English geriatric singer know about USF? Who knows, but it's not unusual for him to be an idiot when it comes to writing about our beloved alma mater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted April 2, 2014 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,559 Content Count: 70,139 Reputation: 8,794 Days Won: 391 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Tom Jones Tribute Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchem1995 Posted April 2, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 48 Content Count: 2,957 Reputation: 888 Days Won: 5 Joined: 04/02/2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Oh crap. I love it. I had the misfortune of listening to that jack-ass yesterday on the air and I called to let him know he's a part time fag. He goes out of his way to kick USF. Dave Willams, "you the man" GO BULLS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted April 2, 2014 Group: Admin Topic Count: 12,936 Content Count: 92,079 Reputation: 8,484 Days Won: 398 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Round 1 goes to Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinRicky Posted April 2, 2014 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 555 Content Count: 20,623 Reputation: 4,637 Days Won: 95 Joined: 09/13/2007 Share Posted April 2, 2014 This is why Jones is, and always will be, an assclown .... Of course, had this whole hiring thing been done right in the first place, Harlan wouldn't have run out of clothes. All this jazz would have been wrapped up a week ago. Would have been much better to be standing in from of the press in a wrinkled suit a week later having to answer questions about firing Masiello. I really don't see Jones' hard line position with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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