NewEnglandBull Posted March 16, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Have you guys actually seen this guys resume? Has done nothing more than what Stand Heath has done. All of the resources and $ of a Alabama program and has only got to the big dance once. NEVER has got the past the second round for VCU or Alabama. Please tell me we can do better than this guy. Please tell me we are going beyound the flash in the pan coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted March 16, 2014 Group: Admin Topic Count: 12,942 Content Count: 92,174 Reputation: 8,555 Days Won: 400 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted March 16, 2014 From AJC.com As you probably have heard by now Alabama Athletics Director Bill Battle announced that Grant will return as men's basketball coach next season. But it just doesn't add up. Before I begin, I need to disclose that I have not actually read Anthony Grant's contract nor am I one of them there fancy contract-reading-lawyer-types. That poorly said, I will attempt to layout the terms culled from different sources around the interwebz. THE FIRST CONTRACT According to an al.com article from 2009, Grant signed a seven-year deal that was required to be renegotiated after three years. The basic terms: Base salary: $245,000 Talent fee: $1,555,000 Signing bonus: $50,000 Two cars, $12,000 in expenses, country club privileges, tickets, and benefits. Let's conservatively say each car is around $30,000 for $60,000 total. I believe Indian Hills Country Club Tuscaloosa membership fees are around $200 per month, $2,400 per year. A family rate may be higher. Tickets and benefits are possibly $10,000 (?) per year. In addition, Alabama paid VCU a $240,000 buyout as well as scheduling a game at VCU which the Crimson Tide lost by 19 points. According to the cited article, that contract came to a grand total of $12.84 million over the life not including bonus and incentives. Bonuses: Grant would receive $25,000 if his team has an APR of 925, which means an 85 percent graduation rate. In 2013, Alabama had a 77% graduation rate which was considered "an upward trend the last four years." I am going to assume he has yet to receive this bonus. Incentives: Winning the SEC West: $15,000 (accomplished once in the 2010-11 season) [*This incentive is now invalid as the SEC has done away with divisions in basketball.] Winning the SEC: $25,000 (not accomplished) Qualifying for the NCAA tournament: $25,000 (accomplished once in 2011-12 season) Reaching the Sweet 16: an additional $50,000 (not accomplished) Reaching the Elite 8: a total of $100,000 (not accomplished) Reaching the Final 4: a total of $200,000 (not accomplished) Winning a national title: a total of $250,000 (LOL! Why not make it $25 million?) RENEGOTIATION A renegotiation in 2012 after the team's only NCAA appearance under Grant (a first round loss to Creighton) garnered him a 5.6% raise which equated to roughly a $100,000 raise per year and extended his contract one year through 2019. Aside from the outdated "win the SEC West" incentive, I assume the other bonuses or incentives were mainly unchanged. This brought his yearly base salary plus talent fee to $1.9 million which is right around what Syracuse's Jim Boeheim and UNC's Roy Williams are making. Grant has been among the top 20 highest paid college coaches since the first day he arrived in Tuscaloosa. THE BUYOUT It is usually standard that coaches have some version of "behavioral" clauses in their contracts. Grant is a boy scout so I cannot see him getting fired for indiscretions. At this point, it would be admitting that the dismissal is without cause and that there are no violations that could have allowed the school to fire him without pay, like in the instance of the Bobby Petrino scandal where he got no money after being let go. If new violations were to arise stemming from his time as coach, the school would have to go to court to get the buyout money back. That said, to part ways with Mr. Grant would have reportedly cost the University around $1 million for each of the five years remaining on his contract or $5 million total. But don't freak out yet. He would not get one of those giant Happy Gilmore checks. The buyout would have been paid in monthly installments of about $83,000 a month for 60 months. Furthermore, these deals usually call for for fired coach to make "reasonable" efforts to land a new job. In the instance of a new job, the new salary is deducted from the buyout. I can't imagine Grant not seeking another coaching job. UAB men's basketball head coach Jerod Haase for instance makes $475,000 per year. Florida lead assistant John Pelphrey who was fired from Arkansas in 2011 makes $180,000 per year. Assistant money is not as much as head coach money but it still takes a little sting out of any payout. Curiously, there seems to be hesitancy from the Athletics department to part with that amount of money. To you and me, that is a lot of green but I don't imagine the University or the Athletics department will be having any bake sales any time soon. CASH STRAPPED? I THINK NOT Alabama reported $143.4 million in athletic revenue in October 2013. Enrollment is through the roof and with it comes higher tuition and higher academic standards. These are good time at the Capstone. WHO IS ON THE HOOK? NOBODY Auburn is paying Gene Chizik $7,500,000 to sit around and surf monster.com. A year ago, Tennessee finished paying off former coach Phillip Fulmer and went right back on the hook for Derek Dooley to the tune of $5 million. Even li'l ol' Southern Mississippi paid Ellis Johnson $2,100,000 to go away after one season at the football helm. I cannot forsee Bama parting ways with their football coach anytime soon. Is Athletics Director Bill Battle trying to tell me Alabama cannot afford this buyout? While schools like Auburn and Tennessee are perpetually paying off buyouts, Alabama has not fired anyone with a significant salary in recent years. All the football assistants who exited Bama did so on their own and left for equal or higher salaried jobs. Mark Gottfried has not been on the payroll in years. Former women's basketball coach Wendell Hudson got kicked upstairs. ON SPIN CYCLE Bill Battle is trying to spin buzzwords about hard work, having high character, and good academics. All these things are fine qualities but truth be told, most coaches can balance those things with winning. I am tired of the excuses. Maybe we need to start a new campaign: #FireBillBattlehttp://m.ajc.com/feed/sports/saturday-morning-hangover-the-anthony-grant/fZMKM/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charsibb Posted March 16, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 653 Content Count: 31,049 Reputation: 2,487 Days Won: 172 Joined: 08/30/2011 Share Posted March 16, 2014 (edited) That article is actually from SBNation. Original article here: http://www.rollbamaroll.com/2014/3/15/5455310/saturday-morning-hangover-the-anthony-grant-predicament Reading the comments, he is no better than Stan. I think this would be a bad hire for us. Edited March 16, 2014 by charsibb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theman123 Posted March 16, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 410 Content Count: 5,577 Reputation: 191 Days Won: 3 Joined: 12/10/2006 Share Posted March 16, 2014 I think Grant will become a very good coach in the NCAA. But i don't want it to happen here. We already have Taggart, we tried Skip, and we tried Stan. I want a proven winner with knowledge and passion for the game. Not a young coach still learning and building his career. Bring me Howland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted March 16, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Author Share Posted March 16, 2014 The cold in NE has gotten to you. The heat must have gotten to you. The man is Stan Heath fseven years ago...nothing more. We can do so much better if only the boosters/athlectic department would grow a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Dozer Posted March 16, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 343 Content Count: 13,697 Reputation: 2,041 Days Won: 45 Joined: 09/04/2006 Share Posted March 16, 2014 If some of the other names mentioned are real options (Pearl, Manning, White, Williams Howland) and not just unfounded rumors Grant would be a bad hire. If a proven winner wants to come here we need to go that route and if some of those names popping up already are actually in play for USF Grant should be way down the list of potential candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usfbullrider Posted March 16, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 64 Content Count: 3,221 Reputation: 386 Days Won: 8 Joined: 07/30/2011 Share Posted March 16, 2014 The AAC is probably a better basketball conference than the SEC. Would feel better about bringing in an up and comer than this guy who has plenty of history and not much success. Bring in an unproven guy vs this guy. Or just pay the big bucks and elevate the program for a few years then see how high it can go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vega Posted March 16, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 303 Content Count: 5,982 Reputation: 109 Days Won: 2 Joined: 01/12/2008 Share Posted March 16, 2014 If some of the other names mentioned are real options (Pearl, Manning, White, Williams Howland) and not just unfounded rumors Grant would be a bad hire. If a proven winner wants to come here we need to go that route and if some of those names popping up already are actually in play for USF Grant should be way down the list of potential candidates. The only list Grant should be on is the Do Not Touch List. Getting rid of Stan Heath for Grant isn't going to put one more butt in the seats at the Sun Dome and it will not excite any recruit or current player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danm1983 Posted March 16, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 44 Content Count: 2,994 Reputation: 151 Days Won: 4 Joined: 08/20/2009 Share Posted March 16, 2014 The only thing about his decent Alabama teams that stood out to me was that they seemed defense oriented and were seemingly low scoring. That just screams boring and more of the same. I think USF could benefit from a more uptempo and exciting team. It seems like the high scoring teams may lose some shoot outs, but tend to blow less games than the grind it out low scoring teams. And even losses would be exciting...in a way. So no thanks to grant. Plenty of good coaches who didn't just get extensions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted March 16, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,794 Content Count: 65,024 Reputation: 2,136 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted March 16, 2014 usf needs a big name at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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