Skingraft Posted March 11, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 743 Content Count: 13,357 Reputation: 2,482 Days Won: 63 Joined: 12/11/2006 Share Posted March 11, 2014 (edited) http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/11/new-michigan-seating-policy-favors-loyalty-of-fans/ I would love that here Edited March 11, 2014 by Skingraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullsbucsfan426 Posted March 12, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 129 Content Count: 3,035 Reputation: 432 Days Won: 7 Joined: 11/28/2010 Share Posted March 12, 2014 The only issue with the loyalty points system is that it bets when the reward is considered cheap or valueless. You wouldn't enter a 1 dollar raffle to win a 10 dollar gift card to chipotle. You would if the prize was a dinner at say, Sideberns. I was a student when the loyalty point system was implemented, and back then, it worked fantastically. The nonrevenue sports got excellent attendance and quite a few students found sports they like attending. Volleyball and Soccer got major boosts out of that. But now? Who wants to attend a football game? Sure, there are some die hards, or fans of other schools who will show up (see Miami last year). But until the product on the field itself is valuable, you won't see students show up. A few years ago, I wouldn't have endorsed reducing the student section from it's current capacity. Now I feel it needs to happen-those are prime seats in the 200s that are being wasted while not having any students there, and they could be selling for 200-300 a year in season tickets. 8000 is enough until we show we can be big again. You can pull the upper deck ticket holders back down to the lower levels and give them a discount to upgrade-say let them come down for 50 per ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charsibb Posted March 12, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 653 Content Count: 31,049 Reputation: 2,487 Days Won: 172 Joined: 08/30/2011 Share Posted March 12, 2014 http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/11/new-michigan-seating-policy-favors-loyalty-of-fans/ I would love that here Agree completely. VERY good idea to reward good behaviour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDYZR Posted March 12, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 462 Content Count: 11,410 Reputation: 2,273 Days Won: 23 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted March 12, 2014 The only issue with the loyalty points system is that it bets when the reward is considered cheap or valueless. You wouldn't enter a 1 dollar raffle to win a 10 dollar gift card to chipotle. You would if the prize was a dinner at say, Sideberns. I was a student when the loyalty point system was implemented, and back then, it worked fantastically. The nonrevenue sports got excellent attendance and quite a few students found sports they like attending. Volleyball and Soccer got major boosts out of that. But now? Who wants to attend a football game? Sure, there are some die hards, or fans of other schools who will show up (see Miami last year). But until the product on the field itself is valuable, you won't see students show up. A few years ago, I wouldn't have endorsed reducing the student section from it's current capacity. Now I feel it needs to happen-those are prime seats in the 200s that are being wasted while not having any students there, and they could be selling for 200-300 a year in season tickets. 8000 is enough until we show we can be big again. You can pull the upper deck ticket holders back down to the lower levels and give them a discount to upgrade-say let them come down for 50 per ticket. Why not have loyalty points based off ALL on campus functions? Something like "priority points" used on season ticket holders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullsbucsfan426 Posted March 12, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 129 Content Count: 3,035 Reputation: 432 Days Won: 7 Joined: 11/28/2010 Share Posted March 12, 2014 The only issue with the loyalty points system is that it bets when the reward is considered cheap or valueless. You wouldn't enter a 1 dollar raffle to win a 10 dollar gift card to chipotle. You would if the prize was a dinner at say, Sideberns. I was a student when the loyalty point system was implemented, and back then, it worked fantastically. The nonrevenue sports got excellent attendance and quite a few students found sports they like attending. Volleyball and Soccer got major boosts out of that. But now? Who wants to attend a football game? Sure, there are some die hards, or fans of other schools who will show up (see Miami last year). But until the product on the field itself is valuable, you won't see students show up. A few years ago, I wouldn't have endorsed reducing the student section from it's current capacity. Now I feel it needs to happen-those are prime seats in the 200s that are being wasted while not having any students there, and they could be selling for 200-300 a year in season tickets. 8000 is enough until we show we can be big again. You can pull the upper deck ticket holders back down to the lower levels and give them a discount to upgrade-say let them come down for 50 per ticket. Why not have loyalty points based off ALL on campus functions? Something like "priority points" used on season ticket holders. Because again, there's currently no value or real demand for football tickets. The system worked great in 2008-2010 when we were winning, but by my last year in 2011, we were starting to see a little bit of the fall back and I no longer had trouble getting tickets even without going to other events. Now, if you put in a new incentive system, perhaps students would start going again. For example, offer more face time to students with USF leadership. So, let's say you get 1000 loyalty points, you get an invitation to a students only event with Mark Harlan to talk athletics. If you get 1500, you get to participate in an hour long meeting with 9 other students with Dr. Genshaft. If you get 2000, you get assistance to go to a Bulls road game to one of our more premiere opponents (for example this season getting a trip to Camp Randall or Cincinnati, or at FSU in a few years). Give people something valuable and you'll see turnout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajusf16 Posted March 12, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 110 Content Count: 2,558 Reputation: 86 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/30/2009 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I would bet $1 for $10 chipotle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BULLfreak Posted March 12, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 646 Content Count: 7,890 Reputation: 10 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/07/2004 Share Posted March 12, 2014 The only issue with the loyalty points system is that it bets when the reward is considered cheap or valueless. You wouldn't enter a 1 dollar raffle to win a 10 dollar gift card to chipotle. You would if the prize was a dinner at say, Sideberns. I was a student when the loyalty point system was implemented, and back then, it worked fantastically. The nonrevenue sports got excellent attendance and quite a few students found sports they like attending. Volleyball and Soccer got major boosts out of that. But now? Who wants to attend a football game? Sure, there are some die hards, or fans of other schools who will show up (see Miami last year). But until the product on the field itself is valuable, you won't see students show up. A few years ago, I wouldn't have endorsed reducing the student section from it's current capacity. Now I feel it needs to happen-those are prime seats in the 200s that are being wasted while not having any students there, and they could be selling for 200-300 a year in season tickets. 8000 is enough until we show we can be big again. You can pull the upper deck ticket holders back down to the lower levels and give them a discount to upgrade-say let them come down for 50 per ticket. Why not have loyalty points based off ALL on campus functions? Something like "priority points" used on season ticket holders. Also why not let those Loyalty points role over to priority points once the students graduate seems like a good way to encourage new alumni to buy premium seats and pushout the old cranks in the lower bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullsbucsfan426 Posted March 12, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 129 Content Count: 3,035 Reputation: 432 Days Won: 7 Joined: 11/28/2010 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I would bet $1 for $10 chipotle You're missing the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullsbucsfan426 Posted March 12, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 129 Content Count: 3,035 Reputation: 432 Days Won: 7 Joined: 11/28/2010 Share Posted March 12, 2014 The only issue with the loyalty points system is that it bets when the reward is considered cheap or valueless. You wouldn't enter a 1 dollar raffle to win a 10 dollar gift card to chipotle. You would if the prize was a dinner at say, Sideberns. I was a student when the loyalty point system was implemented, and back then, it worked fantastically. The nonrevenue sports got excellent attendance and quite a few students found sports they like attending. Volleyball and Soccer got major boosts out of that. But now? Who wants to attend a football game? Sure, there are some die hards, or fans of other schools who will show up (see Miami last year). But until the product on the field itself is valuable, you won't see students show up. A few years ago, I wouldn't have endorsed reducing the student section from it's current capacity. Now I feel it needs to happen-those are prime seats in the 200s that are being wasted while not having any students there, and they could be selling for 200-300 a year in season tickets. 8000 is enough until we show we can be big again. You can pull the upper deck ticket holders back down to the lower levels and give them a discount to upgrade-say let them come down for 50 per ticket. Why not have loyalty points based off ALL on campus functions? Something like "priority points" used on season ticket holders. Also why not let those Loyalty points role over to priority points once the students graduate seems like a good way to encourage new alumni to buy premium seats and pushout the old cranks in the lower bowl. That's not a bad idea. Recent graduates do get lower prices in their first year, but would be nice if people didn't tell me "sit down" (when the stadium has people anyway. Right now I kind of have my row as a luxury suite to myself). It was kind of sad when Miami fans were telling me last year it was okay to cheer on my team and to be as loud as I wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajusf16 Posted March 12, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 110 Content Count: 2,558 Reputation: 86 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/30/2009 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I would bet $1 for $10 chipotle You're missing the point. I am hungry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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