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WTG Southshore.  How and why are you interjected into the Twitter acct of the dead girl?

 

 

  1. @Southshore26 That's what I said. This story is just whacked, and is getting weirder by the hour.

  2. @FantasyTrade411 @LennayKay What's with the two RTs before that?

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Hilarious story and a wonderful way to start the day, all the more so because it embarrassed Notre Dame.  This was a classic hoax - a feel-good epic narrative of athletic triumph in the face of adversity; just the sort of thing Notre Dame needed to rebuild it's brand as the home of Knute Rockne/George Gipp and Rudy Ruettiger.  

 

Notre Dame helped fan the flames of this story and put themselves in the current situation because they needed this story to be true - they wanted to believe the Notre Dame hype and ******** - that somehow their program is special.  So pathetic and desperate to believe this even though no one from Notre Dame had ever seen, spoken to, or had any evidence of the existence of Lennay Kekua.  

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Looking more and more like Manti was intentionally manipulating the media. This article proposes he had some weird online connection and was duped, but that he exaggerated the whole thing for his personal gain. Apparently other players thought the whole thing was a fantasy since day one, even they realized this Lennay character was not a real girlfriend. Multiple friends of ND students have reported on TexAgs that Manti was hooking up with lots of girls and partying frequently. If so this Lennay girl was hardly the love of his life.

 

Written by a ND student, and the anonymous player quotes are very incriminating. Duped or not it looks like Manti is a fraud.

 

http://collegespun.com/big-east/notre-dame/a-notre-dame-students-take-on-manti-teos-dead-girlfriend-hoax#.UPhR3B2-lP7

 

 

 

Yet, even before the Michigan State game, Manti Te’o was being questioned by his teammates. Apparently Manti had only “seen†Lennay once — but I assume “seen†was a rather loose term used for “chatted with online†(however, this is extremely complicated to understand since they were reportedly talking since 2009, according to the Te’o family). The debate among teammates wasn’t whether or not Manti actually knew this girl — it was clear that they had been in contact; no, players just didn’t think that it was fair to call Lennay Kekua Manti’s girlfriend, period (it is well-known on campus that he has had relations with other girls during his time at Notre Dame). They recognized what was going on for what it was — a terrible publicity stunt used to fuel Manti Te’o's Heisman campaign. In fact, many of the players privately commented that they didn’t want the students to wear leis in support of Manti and wouldn’t participate themselves — they cited that the team never responded so publicly to tragic events for other players. But there was also the feeling that Manti didn’t deserve to benefit from publicity from the death of somebody he barely knew.
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Manti definitely manipulated the media.  With that being said, it sounds like Notre Dame and the media let themselves be manipulated.  There absolutely had to be people at Notre Dame (and in the media) who knew it was ******** but went along with it.  Deadspin did only the most basic of fact checking and the whole story fell apart.

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It's not the first time ND's tried soemthing like this to hype a Heisman candidate...

 

Joe Theisman's name was always pronounced "theeezman" until he went to ND, where "Notre Dame publicity man Roger Valdiserri insisted that he change the pronunciation of his name to rhyme with "Heisman", Theismann recounted later"

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Theismann#College_career

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What a house of cards...and just one little puff brought it all down.

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Here's a good post from a guy on the csnbbs boards (OUGwave) and I'm leaning towards agrreing with him:::

 

 

I think here is what we KNOW so far.

1) There is no Lennay.

2) A group of people purporting to be "Lennay" initiated an online relationship with Manti Te'o. (i.e., catfishing). At least one of these is a guy named Tuiasosopo and at least one is a female (individual who had phone conversations with Manti.

3) The group sent phony pictures to Manti.

4) Manti gave conflicting accounts of the nature of their "relationship". Whether this is out of embarassment that the relationship was virtual or whether it was something that he couldn't control once the media got a hold of it, I think is a matter of speculation.

5) The hoaxsters "end" the relationship in September by "killing off Manti". They pick the most pitiful and painful day to do it, the day his grandmother died. Sick bastards.

6) Manti got a phone call from the "Lennay" number in early December at the CFB awards banquet, and "Lennay's" voice claimed it was "Lennay's" twin sister. Light bulb FINALLY goes off in Manti's mind that something is NOT right. He has several conversations with her to probe the truth. He determines that he's been the subject of a cruel joke, and tells his parents.

7) In late December, he told Notre Dame's coaches and athletic department. ND explored possibile criminal ramifications, and finding none, hired an investigative security team to get to the bottom of it. Investigative team returns report 3 days before MNC game saying that Manti was a victim, and not culpable in the hoax.

8) ND and Te'o sit on the story until after the MNC game, then plot their PR strategy to out the hoax. Unfortunately, Gawker/Deadspin beat them to the punch.

The keys to Manti being cleared are 1) admit that he did embellish some details of their physical relationship out of embarassment, 2) get real comfortable with the idea that being embarassed publically over being a naive love-sick kid is A LOT better than having people (and NFL clubs) think you are a malicious fraud artist. He can get this behind him quickly if he does.

The thing that a lot of ND haters and even casual observers are missing here is that Manti isn't the typical college football player who has a vibrant social life, dates a lot, etc. He is an incredibly naive, sheltered, mormon 21 year old that spouts platitudes about faith and hope like he is an Oprah book club devotee. This does not fit with our perception of football players and especially linebackers (e.g., Ray Lewis), so people just assume that he maliciously made Lennay up as part of a PR ploy.

I'm telling you, Occam's razor says that this sheltered mormon kid really is that naive to fall for this.

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Looking more and more like Manti was intentionally manipulating the media. This article proposes he had some weird online connection and was duped, but that he exaggerated the whole thing for his personal gain. Apparently other players thought the whole thing was a fantasy since day one, even they realized this Lennay character was not a real girlfriend. Multiple friends of ND students have reported on TexAgs that Manti was hooking up with lots of girls and partying frequently. If so this Lennay girl was hardly the love of his life.

 

Written by a ND student, and the anonymous player quotes are very incriminating. Duped or not it looks like Manti is a fraud.

 

http://collegespun.com/big-east/notre-dame/a-notre-dame-students-take-on-manti-teos-dead-girlfriend-hoax#.UPhR3B2-lP7

 

 

 

Yet, even before the Michigan State game, Manti Te’o was being questioned by his teammates. Apparently Manti had only “seen†Lennay once — but I assume “seen†was a rather loose term used for “chatted with online†(however, this is extremely complicated to understand since they were reportedly talking since 2009, according to the Te’o family). The debate among teammates wasn’t whether or not Manti actually knew this girl — it was clear that they had been in contact; no, players just didn’t think that it was fair to call Lennay Kekua Manti’s girlfriend, period (it is well-known on campus that he has had relations with other girls during his time at Notre Dame). They recognized what was going on for what it was — a terrible publicity stunt used to fuel Manti Te’o's Heisman campaign. In fact, many of the players privately commented that they didn’t want the students to wear leis in support of Manti and wouldn’t participate themselves — they cited that the team never responded so publicly to tragic events for other players. But there was also the feeling that Manti didn’t deserve to benefit from publicity from the death of somebody he barely knew.

I like the way this student put it together.  Seems like the most reasonable scenario overall, if you can call any of this reasonable.

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Here's a good post from a guy on the csnbbs boards (OUGwave) and I'm leaning towards agrreing with him:::

 

 

I think here is what we KNOW so far.

1) There is no Lennay.

2) A group of people purporting to be "Lennay" initiated an online relationship with Manti Te'o. (i.e., catfishing). At least one of these is a guy named Tuiasosopo and at least one is a female (individual who had phone conversations with Manti.

3) The group sent phony pictures to Manti.

4) Manti gave conflicting accounts of the nature of their "relationship". Whether this is out of embarassment that the relationship was virtual or whether it was something that he couldn't control once the media got a hold of it, I think is a matter of speculation.

5) The hoaxsters "end" the relationship in September by "killing off Manti". They pick the most pitiful and painful day to do it, the day his grandmother died. Sick bastards.

6) Manti got a phone call from the "Lennay" number in early December at the CFB awards banquet, and "Lennay's" voice claimed it was "Lennay's" twin sister. Light bulb FINALLY goes off in Manti's mind that something is NOT right. He has several conversations with her to probe the truth. He determines that he's been the subject of a cruel joke, and tells his parents.

7) In late December, he told Notre Dame's coaches and athletic department. ND explored possibile criminal ramifications, and finding none, hired an investigative security team to get to the bottom of it. Investigative team returns report 3 days before MNC game saying that Manti was a victim, and not culpable in the hoax.

8) ND and Te'o sit on the story until after the MNC game, then plot their PR strategy to out the hoax. Unfortunately, Gawker/Deadspin beat them to the punch.

The keys to Manti being cleared are 1) admit that he did embellish some details of their physical relationship out of embarassment, 2) get real comfortable with the idea that being embarassed publically over being a naive love-sick kid is A LOT better than having people (and NFL clubs) think you are a malicious fraud artist. He can get this behind him quickly if he does.

The thing that a lot of ND haters and even casual observers are missing here is that Manti isn't the typical college football player who has a vibrant social life, dates a lot, etc. He is an incredibly naive, sheltered, mormon 21 year old that spouts platitudes about faith and hope like he is an Oprah book club devotee. This does not fit with our perception of football players and especially linebackers (e.g., Ray Lewis), so people just assume that he maliciously made Lennay up as part of a PR ploy.

I'm telling you, Occam's razor says that this sheltered mormon kid really is that naive to fall for this.

 

ANd I'm telling you, this bridge is for sale.

 

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Here's a good post from a guy on the csnbbs boards (OUGwave) and I'm leaning towards agrreing with him:::

 

 

I think here is what we KNOW so far.

1) There is no Lennay.

2) A group of people purporting to be "Lennay" initiated an online relationship with Manti Te'o. (i.e., catfishing). At least one of these is a guy named Tuiasosopo and at least one is a female (individual who had phone conversations with Manti.

3) The group sent phony pictures to Manti.

4) Manti gave conflicting accounts of the nature of their "relationship". Whether this is out of embarassment that the relationship was virtual or whether it was something that he couldn't control once the media got a hold of it, I think is a matter of speculation.

5) The hoaxsters "end" the relationship in September by "killing off Manti". They pick the most pitiful and painful day to do it, the day his grandmother died. Sick bastards.

6) Manti got a phone call from the "Lennay" number in early December at the CFB awards banquet, and "Lennay's" voice claimed it was "Lennay's" twin sister. Light bulb FINALLY goes off in Manti's mind that something is NOT right. He has several conversations with her to probe the truth. He determines that he's been the subject of a cruel joke, and tells his parents.

7) In late December, he told Notre Dame's coaches and athletic department. ND explored possibile criminal ramifications, and finding none, hired an investigative security team to get to the bottom of it. Investigative team returns report 3 days before MNC game saying that Manti was a victim, and not culpable in the hoax.

8) ND and Te'o sit on the story until after the MNC game, then plot their PR strategy to out the hoax. Unfortunately, Gawker/Deadspin beat them to the punch.

The keys to Manti being cleared are 1) admit that he did embellish some details of their physical relationship out of embarassment, 2) get real comfortable with the idea that being embarassed publically over being a naive love-sick kid is A LOT better than having people (and NFL clubs) think you are a malicious fraud artist. He can get this behind him quickly if he does.

The thing that a lot of ND haters and even casual observers are missing here is that Manti isn't the typical college football player who has a vibrant social life, dates a lot, etc. He is an incredibly naive, sheltered, mormon 21 year old that spouts platitudes about faith and hope like he is an Oprah book club devotee. This does not fit with our perception of football players and especially linebackers (e.g., Ray Lewis), so people just assume that he maliciously made Lennay up as part of a PR ploy.

I'm telling you, Occam's razor says that this sheltered mormon kid really is that naive to fall for this.

Did you read the previous posts and articles in this thread? 

 

Weather or not Manti thought Lennay was real or not, Manti was manipulating the media big time. He was partying and hooking up with other girls at ND. It is reported that the players knew it was fishy, and couldn't believe Manti was saying all the things he was to the media. Read the posted articles. Manti is just as guilty as the Jonaiah hoaxter even if he believed Lennay to be real, it is becoming clear that Manti porposely, with the intent to manipulate and gain sympathy, lied to the media about the details. He basically made up most of the details about their visits and meeting at Stanford and talking on the phone all night... none of that happened, even if he thought Lennay was real, it wasn't a serious online love affair like he is claiming. 

 

It looks like both Manti and this Jonaiah guy are total cons. 

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