Bullgator863 3 Posted December 28, 2015 3 hours ago, NewEnglandBull said: It is a great question. I think it could be answered with another question. If USF was playing Kansas State and the Gators had a game at the same time, who would get the most viewers? The same would be true for FSU. Would fans/alumni of these teams watch USF in Tampa, Orlando, or the state in general? The same thing could be said about Cinci, having Ohio State nearby. Irrelevant point in my opinion. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewEnglandBull 4,026 Posted December 28, 2015 42 minutes ago, mlopez5 said: The same thing could be said about Cinci, having Ohio State nearby. Irrelevant point in my opinion. You are correct and that is why the Big12 will get two divisions with 5 teams and there will be NO expansion. The only way it occurs is if Texas and Oklahoma decide to leave and a landslide takes place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MMW 807 Posted December 28, 2015 25 minutes ago, NewEnglandBull said: You are correct and that is why the Big12 will get two divisions with 5 teams and there will be NO expansion. The only way it occurs is if Texas and Oklahoma decide to leave and a landslide takes place. This is how I would prefer it actually. We need to aspire to be the Boise St of the east and win games and pack the stadium. If the Big 12 invites us now (or anyone) I think it shoots off the starting gun of the departure of Texas and whomever they want to take with them. Let's be patient and dominate this league for a while. Our winning culture took a hit for a few years and we need to reestablish it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sellular1 1,371 Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) 5 minutes ago, mark_my_words said: This is how I would prefer it actually. We need to aspire to be the Boise St of the east and win games and pack the stadium. If the Big 12 invites us now (or anyone) I think it shoots off the starting gun of the departure of Texas and whomever they want to take with them. Let's be patient and dominate this league for a while. Our winning culture took a hit for a few years and we need to reestablish it. Who do you think is possibly going to play us other than the G5 teams in our crappy conference. Those days of Boise State getting big name schools to accept their offer to play anybody anywhere are long gone. The AAC is no better than the MAC or CUSA. Edited December 28, 2015 by Sellular1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MMW 807 Posted December 28, 2015 1 minute ago, Sellular1 said: Who do you think is possibly going to play us other than the G5 teams in our crappy conference. Those days of Boise State getting big name schools to accept their offeri to play anybody anywhere are long gone. The AAC is no better than the MAC or CUSA. Well, I am suggesting we become the tallest little person. Boise got to feast off pretty sub par opponents from their conference year after year. I am suggesting we do that for a while. The reason nobody wanted Boise after their years of success is that they were in the middle of nowhere in a really remote, small market. We have their kind of success on the field against our conference mates we would be more attractive given our market. Also, it is fun watching our team win, even if the opponent is Tulane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sellular1 1,371 Posted December 28, 2015 1 minute ago, mark_my_words said: Well, I am suggesting we become the tallest little person. Boise got to feast off pretty sub par opponents from their conference year after year. I am suggesting we do that for a while. The reason nobody wanted Boise after their years of success is that they were in the middle of nowhere in a really remote, small market. We have their kind of success on the field against our conference mates we would be more attractive given our market. Also, it is fun watching our team win, even if the opponent is Tulane. I totally get what you are saying, and agree with winning the games we have on our plate. I just wish the separation between the teams at the adult table vs kid table wasn't so huge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewEnglandBull 4,026 Posted December 28, 2015 18 minutes ago, mark_my_words said: This is how I would prefer it actually. We need to aspire to be the Boise St of the east and win games and pack the stadium. If the Big 12 invites us now (or anyone) I think it shoots off the starting gun of the departure of Texas and whomever they want to take with them. Let's be patient and dominate this league for a while. Our winning culture took a hit for a few years and we need to reestablish it. +1000 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sellular1 1,371 Posted December 28, 2015 26 minutes ago, Sellular1 said: Who do you think is possibly going to play us other than the G5 teams in our crappy conference. Those days of Boise State getting big name schools to accept their offer to play anybody anywhere are long gone. The AAC is no better than the MAC or CUSA. This is the future. It starts with P5 schools only agreeing to play G5's as home games. In a few years the "major" P5's won't schedule any G5's so as not to damage their SoS. http://www.underdogdynasty.com/2015/10/23/9603818/a-challenge-to-g5-athletic-directors-boycott-the-pitt-panthers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MMW 807 Posted December 28, 2015 35 minutes ago, Sellular1 said: This is the future. It starts with P5 schools only agreeing to play G5's as home games. In a few years the "major" P5's won't schedule any G5's so as not to damage their SoS. http://www.underdogdynasty.com/2015/10/23/9603818/a-challenge-to-g5-athletic-directors-boycott-the-pitt-panthers From the article: " Barnes acknowledged that scheduling plays a huge role in today's Playoff format " OK sellular, we have debated in the past to expand the play off system. I do not agree with Pitt and the other AD's from these schools but as long as it is only open to 4 teams you are going to see this. Imagine if you will the format changes and the league champs get into the playoffs. Do you think they will care about playing teams outside of the the P5? Nope, they might even schedule a few "cup cakes" to soften up their schedules and we will be back to where we are today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sellular1 1,371 Posted December 28, 2015 10 minutes ago, mark_my_words said: From the article: " Barnes acknowledged that scheduling plays a huge role in today's Playoff format " OK sellular, we have debated in the past to expand the play off system. I do not agree with Pitt and the other AD's from these schools but as long as it is only open to 4 teams you are going to see this. Imagine if you will the format changes and the league champs get into the playoffs. Do you think they will care about playing teams outside of the the P5? Nope, they might even schedule a few "cup cakes" to soften up their schedules and we will be back to where we are today. If there are only 4 spots for the 5 power conferences, somebody will be left out in your scenario. Scheduling cupcakes would ensure you are the team left out of the playoffs because the committee still decides which 4 teams go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites