UCF Infractions decision?

[Goldenbuc]

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44m Mark Ennis â€@Mengus22

No. RT @Dgrace75 @Mengus22 Any chance their invite gets revolked depending on how bad sanctions are #UCF

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48m Mark Ennis â€@Mengus22

Wouldn't be shocked to see UCF really get hammered by the NCAA tomorrow.

These Twitter guys have no clue and all of the non-UCF media wants to see blood...it's good media when schools get blasted, especially when it could possibly benefit their beloved schools. Truth is....not even UCF has any idea what the final sanctions will be...so these guys don't know a **** thing.

[bullnupe]

Let the beatings began

[cmhatter]

1 year bowl ban should cap it off

[slbpsi63]

i'd prefer they start their sanctions in 2013...

it will be more than the self imposed... you are crazy... the self imposed ones are nothing... if the NCAA didn't add on a bunch then you'd basically be giving the rest of the country a free pass to act the same way as UCF... all you'd have to do is vacate a few wins and reduce some schollys

I don't think it'll be just the self-imposed...but I just think the brunt will be on the basketball end and they'll probably get a post season ban for a year or two, along with maybe another year probation or another year of a scholly removal. That's pretty rough. Everyone else wants to see the death penalty or something.

But aren't you a multi time offender with your administration involved in the cheating? Its not going to be a slap on the wrist.

[CPR]

i'd prefer they start their sanctions in 2013...

it will be more than the self imposed... you are crazy... the self imposed ones are nothing... if the NCAA didn't add on a bunch then you'd basically be giving the rest of the country a free pass to act the same way as UCF... all you'd have to do is vacate a few wins and reduce some schollys

I don't think it'll be just the self-imposed...but I just think the brunt will be on the basketball end and they'll probably get a post season ban for a year or two, along with maybe another year probation or another year of a scholly removal. That's pretty rough. Everyone else wants to see the death penalty or something.

But aren't you a multi time offender with your administration involved in the cheating? Its not going to be a slap on the wrist.

Of course it shouldn't be a slap on the wrist. Never take the opinion of a fan of the program that is about to get sanctioned. If it were us (USF) fans, I'm sure we'd be saying, "it won't be that bad", "we really didn't do anything really wrong" too.

[Goldenbuc]

i'd prefer they start their sanctions in 2013...

it will be more than the self imposed... you are crazy... the self imposed ones are nothing... if the NCAA didn't add on a bunch then you'd basically be giving the rest of the country a free pass to act the same way as UCF... all you'd have to do is vacate a few wins and reduce some schollys

I don't think it'll be just the self-imposed...but I just think the brunt will be on the basketball end and they'll probably get a post season ban for a year or two, along with maybe another year probation or another year of a scholly removal. That's pretty rough. Everyone else wants to see the death penalty or something.

But aren't you a multi time offender with your administration involved in the cheating? Its not going to be a slap on the wrist.

We're not expecting a slap on the wrist, UCF self-imposed pretty tough penalties for both sports and we expect the NCAA will comply with those and having the former AD being involved, there's obviously more concern there. The thing is....nobody really will know until tomorrow. Not even UCF...so the twitteronis are just throwing anything out, right now. Don't expect muli-year bowl bans, loss of TV or football vacating any wins. There weren't any football players involved in anything that are on the team or ever were ever on the team, in this case. Hell...GOL was cleared by the NCAA. The school self-imposed a reprimand on GOL, anyhow. Basketball only had one player on the team involved in any investigation and he was suspended for half of the season, last year. Basketball will take the brunt of this, I'm afraid.

[CPR]

i'd prefer they start their sanctions in 2013...

it will be more than the self imposed... you are crazy... the self imposed ones are nothing... if the NCAA didn't add on a bunch then you'd basically be giving the rest of the country a free pass to act the same way as UCF... all you'd have to do is vacate a few wins and reduce some schollys

I don't think it'll be just the self-imposed...but I just think the brunt will be on the basketball end and they'll probably get a post season ban for a year or two, along with maybe another year probation or another year of a scholly removal. That's pretty rough. Everyone else wants to see the death penalty or something.

But aren't you a multi time offender with your administration involved in the cheating? Its not going to be a slap on the wrist.

We're not expecting a slap on the wrist, UCF self-imposed pretty tough penalties for both sports and we expect the NCAA will comply with those and having the former AD being involved, there's obviously more concern there. The thing is....nobody really will know until tomorrow. Not even UCF...so the twitteronis are just throwing anything out, right now. Don't expect muli-year bowl bans, loss of TV or football vacating any wins. There weren't any football players involved in anything that are on the team or ever were ever on the team, in this case. Hell...GOL was cleared by the NCAA. The school self-imposed a reprimand on GOL, anyhow. Basketball only had one player on the team involved in any investigation and he was suspended for half of the season, last year. Basketball will take the brunt of this, I'm afraid.

It's subjective; to a UCF fan they're pretty tough penalties. Imo, the penalties are soft. We'll see tomorrow.

[Bulls1181]

UCF NCAA investigation analysis: A closer look at the best, worst case scenarios for the Knights

Athletic Department, Athletics, UCF Basketball, UCF Football — posted by Iliana Limón on July, 30 2012 10:31 PM

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UCF’s long wait is nearly over.

The NCAA Committee on Infractions is scheduled to announce Tuesday at 10:45 a.m. whether UCF will face additional penalties for major recruiting violations within the football and men’s basketball programs.

“UCF is committed to winning with integrity and setting the standard for NCAA compliance,†UCF spokesman Grant Heston said. “Tuesday’s announcement represents the latest step in our ongoing process.â€

The NCAA first began investigating UCF recruiting practices in April 2011. Its investigators alleged Chicago resident Ken Caldwell, who mentored a variety of football and basketball high school athletes, was working with a professional agent and helped steer recruits to UCF. Investigators determined Caldwell provided 11 UCF football and men’s basketball recruits $16,005.74 worth of benefits starting in March 2009.

Investigators also suggested former UCF athletics director Keith Tribble tried to arrange a job for the mother of a UCF football recruit, helped Caldwell’s son receive a waiver for in-state tuition and provided free game tickets to Caldwell.

Keith Tribble and wide receivers coach David Kelly were forced to resign in November due to their ties to the investigation.

UCF self imposed a long list of sanctions, including a reduction of scholarships and official visits for football and men’s basketball. Here’s a look at the best and worst case scenarios for UCF:

Best Case Scenario

The NCAA Committee on Infractions could opt to add little or no penalties beyond what UCF has already self imposed.

UCF hired attorney Michael Glazier, a former NCAA investigator known for helping schools clean house after major NCAA infractions, to conduct a review concurrent with the NCAA investigation. Glazier has a history of recommending schools self impose hefty sanctions, in some case worse than might be imposed by the NCAA, to show the Committee on Infractions it is serious about complying with NCAA rules and should not face hefty additional sanctions.

UCF President John Hitt said he imposed every sanction Glazier recommended. He noted the termination of athletic director Keith Tribble and popular wide receivers coach David Kelly were dramatic steps and demonstrated the school’s commitment to NCAA rules compliance.

Hitt also noted UCF didn’t benefit from the rules violations, pointing out former UCF basketball player A.J. Rompza was the sole player involved in the investigation who ever competed for UCF.

While the NCAA’s notice of allegations was scathing, there was little evidence to support some of the more extreme claims including Caldwell’s ties to a professional sports agent.

Worst Case Scenario

UCF could be hit with additional sanctions, including postseason bans in football and basketball.

It seems unlikely the NCAA would hammer the Knights, but the possibility is one of many reasons universities never want to be put in a position of appearing before the NCAA Committee on Infractions.

UCF is classified as a repeat offender. Former football staff members Ed Marynowitz and Steve Rubio had impermissible phone contact with recruits, calling them and sending them text messages. They held the title of director football operations at the time and were not allowed to make outgoing calls to recruits under NCAA rules. The violations spanned the tenure of two separate staff members, elevating what would have been a secondary infraction to a major violation. As a result, UCF was placed on probation and was still under additional NCAA scrutiny when investigators first began looking into Caldwell’s connection to the program.

Any time an athletic director is linked to such serious allegations and is fired, it stands to reason some of the other penalties may be harsh. If the committee believes UCF suffers from a loss of institutional control, it could take dramatic action to make sure the school is forced to do a better job complying with NCAA rules.

Other key issues to note

– UCF can appeal the decision. It’s a lengthy process, but the Knights can appeal any additional sanctions handed down by the NCAA Tuesday.

– Tribble and Kelly also have a lot at stake Tuesday. The best case scenario would be for Tribble and Kelly would be to either have their names cleared entirely or face no additional sanctions, allowing them to pursue new jobs at the NCAA level.

The worst case scenario would be what’s known as a “shown cause†penalty. An NCAA program would have to demonstrate to the NCAA Tribble or Kelly were a trustworthy hire capable of following NCAA rules and would have to put together a plan to make sure they continued to follow those rules. The school would also absorb any NCAA penalties that are linked to Tribble and Kelly. The only way to avoid taking on the sanctions would be to appear before the Committee on Infractions to “show cause†the person and school should no longer face such penalties. It is basically inviting great NCAA scrutiny to a program, something most schools would work hard avoid. It is rare for an athletic director or coach to recover from a show cause penalty. Given the extensive allegations about Tribble’s rules violations, he is the most danger of facing a “show cause†penalty.

[Triple B]

“UCF is committed to winning with integrity and setting the standard for NCAA compliance,†UCF spokesman Grant Heston said.

Yet they have a Callahan recruiting ....

[Southshore26]

“UCF is committed to winning with integrity and setting the standard for NCAA compliance,†UCF spokesman Grant Heston said.

Yet they have a Callahan recruiting ....

snicker...........