Vegas line: USF opened as 23 point favorite over Ball State

[Mama_Bull]

We must really be good.    ;D

Line is now 21.5.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/odds/las-vegas/line-movement/ball-state-@-south-florida.cfm/date/9-10-11/time/1900#AA'>http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/odds/las-vegas/line-movement/ball-state-@-south-florida.cfm/date/9-10-11/time/1900#AA

Meanwhile....

commie22 Mike Commodore

ND is favored by 4.5 pts over Michigan??? In Michigan!!! Am I missing something? Didn't ND just lose to USF at home.

8 hours ago

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/odds/las-vegas/

[flsportsfan83]

I would take Ball State at +23. I wont because I dont bet USF games.

Ball State is not that bad. USF still has alot to prove, the win was nice but our D looked very beatable.

[The Sheriff]

We'll come close to covering 23. Michigan will not beat Notre Dame however. The Irish are going to brutalize Michigan and cover the spread. After watching the game live and now on replay, Notre Dame is going to be a 10-win team this season. I feel fortunate to get a win in South Bend and will say this is one of the better wins in our history. We truly beat a good team.

[Mama_Bull]

I would take Ball State at +23. I wont because I dont bet USF games.

Ball State is not that bad. USF still has alot to prove, the win was nice but our D looked very beatable.

I would too. I don't think Holtz will try to run up the score, even if he could do so. Some coaches would just to get themselves into the top 25.

[flsportsfan83]

We'll come close to covering 23. Michigan will not beat Notre Dame however. The Irish are going to brutalize Michigan and cover the spread. After watching the game live and now on replay, Notre Dame is going to be a 10-win team this season. I feel fortunate to get a win in South Bend and will say this is one of the better wins in our history. We truly beat a good team.

I agree, it was just our day. ND is a good football team.

[Mama_Bull]

The Series:  Ball State and USF will be meeting for the first time ever in football.

Scouting Ball State:  Ball State started its 2011 season with a 27-20 victory over Big Ten Conference foe Indiana at Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis, Ind. . . . With the win, the Cardinals achieved a second straight victory over the Hoosiers in the six game series . . . Ball State rushed for 210 yards and passed for 173, while limiting the Hoosiers to 103 yards rushing and 272 yards passing . . . With the score tied 17-17 in the third quarter, the Cardinals took a 24-17 advantage on a 20-yard touchdown pass from Keith Wenning (Coldwater, Ohio/Coldwater H.S.) to Connor Ryan (Westlake, Ohio/St. Ignatius H.S.) . . . Ball State stretched the lead to 27-17 on a Steven Schott (Massillon, Ohio/Washington H.S.) 22-yard field goal with 2:16 to play in the game . . . The Cardinals return 11 starters from a 2010 team that posted a 4-8 overall record and a 3-5 mark in the Mid-American Conference . . . Ball State's top returnee is Sean Baker, who was named to the All-MAC Second Team plus was the Cardinals John Magnabosco Award winner as the team's most valuable player in 2010 . . . Jason Pinkston (Cleveland, Ohio/Glenville H.S.) returns after starting all 12 games for the Cardinals in 2010 . . . Pinkston was named to the All-MAC Third Team a year ago.

Scouting USF

The Record:  USF began its 2011 season with a 23-20 victory over Notre Dame in South Bend, Ind. . . . The Bulls return 45 letterwinners, including 12 starters from a 2010 team that posted an 8-5 overall record and 3-4 mark in the Big East Conference . . . USF defeated Clemson 31-26 in the 2010 Meineke Car Care Bowl.

The Coach:  Skip Holtz (Notre Dame '86) is in his second year as the head coach at USF and in his 11th season as a collegiate head coach . . . Holtz managed a 38-27 record as the head coach at East Carolina from 2005-09, and a 34-23 mark as the head mentor at Connecticut from 1994-98.

The Stats:  B.J. Daniels completed 18-of-30 passes for 128 yards with one touchdown in the opener, while Sterli Griffin managed eight catches for 75 yards . . . Demetri Murray rushed 14 times for 40 yards.

http://ballstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=14200&ATCLID=205266908

[jjlovecub]

I would take Ball State at +23. I wont because I dont bet USF games.

Ball State is not that bad. USF still has alot to prove, the win was nice but our D looked very beatable.

Right now I am glad I do bet them - +10.5 paid me 50 and my money line bet at +290 paid me $145!!! Of course I threw away my $10 on USF to win it all as I do every year. but hey $10 to win $1500 and right now I'm still alive LOL - Just fun to have the ride!

[mikemcp88]

My buddy bet on USF games many times, he always gets screwed.

[Bull Dozer]

Seems like an easy bet to me, take ball state and the points.  

[E.T.]

We'll cover ... in the first half!

And we'll shut them out!

Indiana AND Ball St are no where near as good as we are.

BJ will be passing outside and we'll be running up the middle.

We'll STAMPEDE !