Jose Jose a UCF Knight again! Incredibull!!! :)

[Apis Bull]

Back on topic, I thought UCF didn't sign, "bad character guys".

[Paisa el Toro]

Back on topic, I thought UCF didn't sign, "bad character guys".

They do sign them after charges have been dropped.

[Triple B]

Whoever hasn't flubbed on their resume is disingenuous.  Just my view.

I really like GOL, but his resume errors were a lot bigger than a flub, and he paid a big price for his written actions.

What exactly were his resume errors .... btw?

They were not errors.  they were lies.  GOL is our coach and I am glad he is but I won't paper over lying on a resume.  He said he lettered in fb and had a master's degree,  neither were true. 

Still think it was an incredibly stupid move on Notre Dame's part, after the fact, and can understand why they've sucked as long as they have with decisions like that ...

so you hire someone and find out they lied on their resume about something little and then find out they lied even more so, you wouldn't fire them?

IMO, football coaching at that level is different than your everyday business world. You're hiring someone based on stuff that's pretty much out there for all to see ... why even bother with a resume? ..... and since when did the Catholics care that much about background checks, anyway?  :

don't necessarily disagree with you, but if you lie about your resume (which isn't a big deal  :) who's to say he won't/didn't lie about something more serious

Back off topic, who cares?? He was a pretty well known commodity, being hired to coach football, something he had shown to be pretty proficient at up to that point ... and I'd be willing to bet that most coaches at that level have lied about something along the line ...

[Bullpride08]

Whoever hasn't flubbed on their resume is disingenuous.  Just my view.

I really like GOL, but his resume errors were a lot bigger than a flub, and he paid a big price for his written actions.

What exactly were his resume errors .... btw?

They were not errors.  they were lies.  GOL is our coach and I am glad he is but I won't paper over lying on a resume.  He said he lettered in fb and had a master's degree,  neither were true. 

Still think it was an incredibly stupid move on Notre Dame's part, after the fact, and can understand why they've sucked as long as they have with decisions like that ...

so you hire someone and find out they lied on their resume about something little and then find out they lied even more so, you wouldn't fire them?

IMO, football coaching at that level is different than your everyday business world. You're hiring someone based on stuff that's pretty much out there for all to see ... why even bother with a resume? ..... and since when did the Catholics care that much about background checks, anyway?  :

Suuuuurreeeeee it is.....running a multi-million dollar budget, managing scores of individuals (NOT INCLUDING THE PLAYERS), providing budgets, and answers to difficult mundane questions and listening to all opinions.  I'd say being a coach is very much like the everyday business world, in fact I would liken a high powered coach to a job akin to the president of a public company.  Who must answer questions to the smallest of shareholders, and dance to the whims of the media, the IRS, and SEC.

Check it out champ...there is no difference, you submit a resume, you get a job, your job requires title.  The semantics about what the job entails is the only difference...come on man you love semantics.

[2000bull]

Whoever hasn't flubbed on their resume is disingenuous.  Just my view.

I really like GOL, but his resume errors were a lot bigger than a flub, and he paid a big price for his written actions.

What exactly were his resume errors .... btw?

They were not errors.  they were lies.  GOL is our coach and I am glad he is but I won't paper over lying on a resume.  He said he lettered in fb and had a master's degree,  neither were true. 

Still think it was an incredibly stupid move on Notre Dame's part, after the fact, and can understand why they've sucked as long as they have with decisions like that ...

so you hire someone and find out they lied on their resume about something little and then find out they lied even more so, you wouldn't fire them?

IMO, football coaching at that level is different than your everyday business world. You're hiring someone based on stuff that's pretty much out there for all to see ... why even bother with a resume? ..... and since when did the Catholics care that much about background checks, anyway?  :

don't necessarily disagree with you, but if you lie about your resume (which isn't a big deal  :) who's to say he won't/didn't lie about something more serious

Back off topic, who cares?? He was a pretty well known commodity, being hired to coach football, something he had shown to be pretty proficient at up to that point ... and I'd be willing to bet that most coaches at that level have lied about something along the line ...

if it's not important, then why lie on it or even have a resume for that matter?  : 

[Triple B]

Whoever hasn't flubbed on their resume is disingenuous.  Just my view.

I really like GOL, but his resume errors were a lot bigger than a flub, and he paid a big price for his written actions.

What exactly were his resume errors .... btw?

They were not errors.  they were lies.  GOL is our coach and I am glad he is but I won't paper over lying on a resume.  He said he lettered in fb and had a master's degree,  neither were true. 

Still think it was an incredibly stupid move on Notre Dame's part, after the fact, and can understand why they've sucked as long as they have with decisions like that ...

so you hire someone and find out they lied on their resume about something little and then find out they lied even more so, you wouldn't fire them?

IMO, football coaching at that level is different than your everyday business world. You're hiring someone based on stuff that's pretty much out there for all to see ... why even bother with a resume? ..... and since when did the Catholics care that much about background checks, anyway?  :

Suuuuurreeeeee it is.....running a multi-million dollar budget, managing scores of individuals (NOT INCLUDING THE PLAYERS), providing budgets, and answers to difficult mundane questions and listening to all opinions.  I'd say being a coach is very much like the everyday business world, in fact I would liken a high powered coach to a job akin to the president of a public company.  Who must answer questions to the smallest of shareholders, and dance to the whims of the media, the IRS, and SEC.

If you insist on trying to force this analogy, what you're describing there is CLOSER to the college Athletic Director than the head coach ...

Check it out champ...there is no difference, you submit a resume, you get a job, your job requires title.

No, you check this out, Francis. There is a big difference ... In college football, you get a job, (no idea what a job requiring title means), you submit a resume (maybe).

The semantics about what the job entails is the only difference...come on man you love semantics.

Your right, I do love the semantics .... "Talking In Your Sleep" was one of my favs.

[Triple B]

Whoever hasn't flubbed on their resume is disingenuous.  Just my view.

I really like GOL, but his resume errors were a lot bigger than a flub, and he paid a big price for his written actions.

What exactly were his resume errors .... btw?

They were not errors.  they were lies.  GOL is our coach and I am glad he is but I won't paper over lying on a resume.  He said he lettered in fb and had a master's degree,  neither were true. 

Still think it was an incredibly stupid move on Notre Dame's part, after the fact, and can understand why they've sucked as long as they have with decisions like that ...

so you hire someone and find out they lied on their resume about something little and then find out they lied even more so, you wouldn't fire them?

IMO, football coaching at that level is different than your everyday business world. You're hiring someone based on stuff that's pretty much out there for all to see ... why even bother with a resume? ..... and since when did the Catholics care that much about background checks, anyway?  :

don't necessarily disagree with you, but if you lie about your resume (which isn't a big deal  :) who's to say he won't/didn't lie about something more serious

Back off topic, who cares?? He was a pretty well known commodity, being hired to coach football, something he had shown to be pretty proficient at up to that point ... and I'd be willing to bet that most coaches at that level have lied about something along the line ...

if it's not important, then why lie on it or even have a resume for that matter?  : 

That part of the resume was probably done decades ago when GOL was a young pup, fresh out of whatever fictitious college, and who knows, maybe he had some issues back then :hippy ..... All I know is that his hiring at Notre Dame had nothing to do with that resume.

[footnfan1]

When he resigned, I think that was his point. that he lied, and the lie started a LONG time ago, and that he should have fixed equally long ago. Not an excuse, but an explanation, of his error.

He never tried to dodge the error, but like many people who lie...often, the tale is a long one......and few people own up to the whole thing, they cut things short hoping the rest will go away, it didn't. He paid quite a price in reputation, that will never go away.

[Bullpride08]

Ahhh a common theme as Triple McTurd is back to getting us off topic.

TMT since you are the abiter of all that is right....why do you get to label what I described as an Athletic Director?  You do know the job of a President, or a COO right, in lieu of the CEO? 

Hey Triple McTurd why don't you just tell us what we can and can't post, and when you get on your tagents it would help us all if you would just end it after your initial post instead of feeling the need for you to squash everyone's version/opinion with YOUR OPINIONS!

I hope you have a Porn Stache like the other McTurd.

[Triple B]

TMT since you are the abiter of all that is right....why do you get to label what I described as an Athletic Director?

LOL ... we all get to label what we want to ... That's what message boards are for ... and what you described, TO ME, more fit the AD rather than the coach. Two quick examples:

"managing scores of individuals (NOT INCLUDING THE PLAYERS)" - That indicates supervising 40 plus people and I don't think the head coach has that many on his staff, does he?

"providing budgets" - An AD is the one providing budgets to the hc's under his jurisdiction.

Hey Triple McTurd why don't you just tell us what we can and can't post, and when you get on your tagents it would help us all if you would just end it after your initial post instead of feeling the need for you to squash everyone's version/opinion with YOUR OPINIONS!

Bien, I have the feeling the delicious irony of that statement will not be lost on the long time board members here. 

I hope you have a Porn Stache like the other McTurd.

LOL ... Actually, I have one that's **** close.