smazza Posted August 8, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 66,073 Reputation: 2,431 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Author Share Posted August 8, 2008 why wouldnt he be?you care what i think that is why you were first responderAs much as I would love to redshirt him to save a year. We need to be at least 3 deep at QB. If any injury to Grothe or Gregory, BJ would end up coming out of redshirt anyways. This way he is at least grabbing experience very soon. not to mention we may have expressed to him that we planned on having him play right away-- something that may have helped bring him to USF. Apparently th coaches like what they are seeing in practice-- so it's a go. Done deal. No need to second guess it anymore. But then again-- this is a smazza pot-stirring masterpiece. Find something that might inspire discussion, throw out the less informed or less-popular opinion and sit back and watch each side fight it out. huh- man you guys dont know the game unfortunately,mikeg never had much experience with college football before usf got a teamthis is a common discussion in the better programs--- whether to redshirt or not? and the better programs and coach's would redshirt bj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted August 8, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 66,073 Reputation: 2,431 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Author Share Posted August 8, 2008 Why he won't redshirt1) bj was promised he could play both basketball and football if he signed with usf. making him prepare for game day as a true freshman will be such an overload he won't want to play basketball. 2) We need someone with game experience to back up grothe next year3) Specialty plays like nothing we've ever seen at usfand ...4) Because Leavitt says so and that is the final word. the better coaches dont make such ridiulous promises and i dont believe leavitt made such a promise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted August 8, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 66,073 Reputation: 2,431 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Author Share Posted August 8, 2008 We have the opportunity to do something special this year... I agree with Leavitt's decision to let this kid play. Also, Gregory will not get more playing time than BJ, so don't try and act like BJ will be taking Severino's role of clipboard handler this year. He will have an impact on a very good team. And who's to say he wont be starting in 09if you are counting on bj daniels to help usf this yearforget it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullSixx Posted August 8, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 407 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/02/2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Evan LandiWho's he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted August 8, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 66,073 Reputation: 2,431 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Author Share Posted August 8, 2008 Redshirt B.J. and put a converted safety at third string, like Gachette.smart move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Martin Posted August 8, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 8,044 Reputation: 228 Days Won: 9 Joined: 12/23/2005 Share Posted August 8, 2008 why wouldnt he be?you care what i think that is why you were first responderAs much as I would love to redshirt him to save a year. We need to be at least 3 deep at QB. If any injury to Grothe or Gregory, BJ would end up coming out of redshirt anyways. This way he is at least grabbing experience very soon. not to mention we may have expressed to him that we planned on having him play right away-- something that may have helped bring him to USF. Apparently th coaches like what they are seeing in practice-- so it's a go. Done deal. No need to second guess it anymore. But then again-- this is a smazza pot-stirring masterpiece. Find something that might inspire discussion, throw out the less informed or less-popular opinion and sit back and watch each side fight it out. huh- man you guys dont know the game unfortunately,mikeg never had much experience with college football before usf got a teamthis is a common discussion in the better programs--- whether to redshirt or not? and the better programs and coach's would redshirt bj That depends on various factors. It's well known we are recruiting Eugene Smith very hard. Redshirting BJ could be a sign that we'll need a QB recruit and help land him. Also, you know our recruiting has gotten better year in and year out. In two years we should have a QB coming in that is better than BJ, whether it be Eugene Smith or someone the following year.I think keeping his redshirt in case of major injury is a good move at this point. We should have an even better QB in the future. Would you rather have a guy with 2 years experience going to "the swamp" or a guy with only 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullSixx Posted August 8, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 407 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/02/2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Evan LandiWho's he?He was 2A first team all-state as a DB.so it looks like CJL will not redshirt BJ and move Evan to DB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullSixx Posted August 8, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 407 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/02/2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Redshirt B.J. and put a converted safety at third string, like Gachette.smart moveshould i sense sarcasm?or are you being serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apis Bull Posted August 8, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 23,185 Reputation: 2,332 Days Won: 65 Joined: 09/05/2002 Share Posted August 8, 2008 I think 90% of us are in agreement. Not to mention it isn't up to us.for all the other reasons (value of a redshirt year in your pocket) and the fact that playing without a 3rd QB is just plain dangerous, my answer is a resounding NO.Just a point of order here. They don't apply for the redshirt until after the season. If you had BJ as your 3rd QB and he never saw game action (or very limited) you can still apply for his redshirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Martin Posted August 8, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 8,044 Reputation: 228 Days Won: 9 Joined: 12/23/2005 Share Posted August 8, 2008 I think 90% of us are in agreement. Not to mention it isn't up to us.for all the other reasons (value of a redshirt year in your pocket) and the fact that playing without a 3rd QB is just plain dangerous, my answer is a resounding NO.Just a point of order here. They don't apply for the redshirt until after the season. If you had BJ as your 3rd QB and he never saw game action (or very limited) you can still apply for his redshirt.With our schedule he should see plenty of action againstTN-Martin, UCF, FIU, NC State, Cuse, and to a certain extent Lousville and UConn (I'm still not sold on UConn). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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