Bullschmutz Posted October 29, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 1,304 Reputation: 122 Days Won: 2 Joined: 10/17/2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 This was the first game in a while that we didn't score a TD in the first possession after halftime. We have to do something right, coaching-wise to do that. But I didn't think Rod was a BCS quality coordinator, and it seems we elevated someone under him. What about elevating Canales to OC? He seems to be a great recruitor but doesn't he have head coaching experiance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Dozer Posted October 29, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 13,697 Reputation: 2,041 Days Won: 45 Joined: 09/04/2006 Share Posted October 29, 2007 After watching the replay the offensive coaches need to take some heat for that call. On the 2nd down Plancher carry (that got stuffed) MG faked the boot after he handed off to Plancher. I watched the defensive end and he stayed home and was just waiting for MG. The offensive coaches should have recognized that the end was staying home in that formation and they would have realized that the naked boot was not going to work in that situation. That's very true.But it seems to me the thing a lot of you guys are missing is that it's not just ONE PLAY we should be concerned about.Yes, that ONE PLAY was bad, but it's Gregory's overall scheme.....his overall mindset.His GAMEPLANS are just woefully inadequate.He was outcoached by ELON for crying out loud.The past 2 games have been pretty bad IMO but hopefully he learns from it and improves over the rest of the season. Having a Sophmore QB and a 1st years OC will make the offense look pretty bad at times (Gregory being predictable/not making adjustments, Matt trying to do to much at times) and not to mention the drops that kill drives or put is in third and long. We just need to mature as a team on offense because we just arent executing very well as a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmhatter Posted October 29, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 8,174 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 6 Joined: 09/02/2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 does any1 else notice how PREDICTABLE we are on offense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullschmutz Posted October 29, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 1,304 Reputation: 122 Days Won: 2 Joined: 10/17/2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 does any1 else notice how PREDICTABLE we are on offense?I don't think anyone thought we were that stupid as to run another gimmicky play from the 1 yard line with the game on the line.... uh except for the uConn defense. :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usfgrad84 Posted October 29, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 6,348 Reputation: 662 Days Won: 8 Joined: 05/25/2006 Share Posted October 29, 2007 No, lets not stick with an OC just because he is new. Look at Robinson and Syracuse. He is great, Syracuse was-is great, but their marriage is a flop.Lets cut away from our OC and try another. He is too conservative and does not have that sparc that Leavitt has/once exhibited.Just a thought - don't harsh us/me I disagree. We have a sophmore QB, a couple of true freshman RB still learning, a former walkon RB picking up the slack as our two studs learn the game, a severely banged up oline and some injuries in our WR corps (TJ, Amarri, Erskin, etc.). Our OC is doing the best he can with what we have. We don't have a stable of 3, 4, 5 star players to draw on. The naked bootleg was a bad call, but if it worked we would be saying how great he is. We need to keep plugging away and getting better every year. Our recruiting has to pick up for us to consistently compete. Our offense will be better next year, and even better the year after that.it is the offense we run that is the problemgrothe cant keep winning every game for usfI am beginning to agree with smazza about the offense. The spread, at least the way we run it is nice for some individual stats. it hasn't been a scoring offense in five years. right now to me it seems like it's good for spreading the field and letting Matt make some athletic plays. Sort of like playing in the back yard. Let the best athlete make some plays one on one. When we get into the red zone when there isn't enough field to spread the defense out and they can gang tackle and swarm we get introuble. If we don't score from far away we don't have enough basic, fundamental plays or players in the offense to score consistently. Thats what it appears like to me. We may be a bit different in a couple of years when the talent develops. We had 5 and sometimes 7 freshman at the same time on offense the other day. A couple of different dceisions makes the game end differently, but I still see flaws in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunil Posted October 29, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 1,260 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/20/2006 Share Posted October 29, 2007 I am beginning to agree with smazza about the offense. The spread, at least the way we run it is nice for some individual stats. it hasn't been a scoring offense in five years. right now to me it seems like it's good for spreading the field and letting Matt make some athletic plays. Sort of like playing in the back yard. Let the best athlete make some plays one on one. When we get into the red zone when there isn't enough field to spread the defense out and they can gang tackle and swarm we get introuble. If we don't score from far away we don't have enough basic, fundamental plays or players in the offense to score consistently. Thats what it appears like to me. We may be a bit different in a couple of years when the talent develops. We had 5 and sometimes 7 freshman at the same time on offense the other day. A couple of different dceisions makes the game end differently, but I still see flaws in general.I think we've all got some concerns about the offense. Personally, I hate the spread...but it can be really effective at the college level for isolating our athletes to make plays. My main thing is that if we're going to run the spread...we have to maximize the potential of the formation. If you see WVU or some of the other teams who use the formation...there are more go routes down the sideline, RB screens, play action passes, QB option runs (with a pitchback option), delayed draws to a FB. Heck, even when Rod Smith was here (can't believe I'm saying this) we would see bubble screens and reverses ad nauseum. If you're going to play it vanilla, then the spread isn't the offense you need to run...but if you're looking to take some chances to spring your athletes into the open field...it can work. Our offense right now has become too predictable. If Grothe starts to run, there is no fear of him pitching the ball. If we step back to pass...we're always trying to hit a receiver going over the middle. In games our offense has put up big numbers...we had better talent. Our playcalling has to be more creative in putting the defense on their heels when we're facing equal talent in unfavorable conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JulmisteForPrez Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 I think we've all got some concerns about the offense. Personally, I hate the spread...but it can be really effective at the college level for isolating our athletes to make plays. My main thing is that if we're going to run the spread...we have to maximize the potential of the formation. If you see WVU or some of the other teams who use the formation...there are more go routes down the sideline, RB screens, play action passes, QB option runs (with a pitchback option), delayed draws to a FB. Heck, even when Rod Smith was here (can't believe I'm saying this) we would see bubble screens and reverses ad nauseum. If you're going to play it vanilla, then the spread isn't the offense you need to run...but if you're looking to take some chances to spring your athletes into the open field...it can work. Our offense right now has become too predictable. If Grothe starts to run, there is no fear of him pitching the ball. If we step back to pass...we're always trying to hit a receiver going over the middle. In games our offense has put up big numbers...we had better talent. Our playcalling has to be more creative in putting the defense on their heels when we're facing equal talent in unfavorable conditions.Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usfgrad84 Posted October 30, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 6,348 Reputation: 662 Days Won: 8 Joined: 05/25/2006 Share Posted October 30, 2007 This was the first game in a while that we didn't score a TD in the first possession after halftime. We have to do something right, coaching-wise to do that. But I didn't think Rod was a BCS quality coordinator, and it seems we elevated someone under him. What about elevating Canales to OC? He seems to be a great recruitor but doesn't he have head coaching experiance?Gregory had D1 OC experience and I also believe he was an OC of the year in his conference one year. it certainly isn't gameplanning. If you look at the stas we are putting up overall it is not playcalling. His decision making at key times has been very questionable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJ Posted October 30, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 1,165 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/08/2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Has anybody considered that LEAVITT is at fault? I love the guy as much as anyone, but he's not perfect. We are ha ving offensive trouble with gregory, we had it with Rod. We had the same dumb calls with Rod, maybe that has to do with Jim. From reading all the posts, it seems nobody is laying an ounce of blame on CJL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.T. Posted October 30, 2007 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 37,552 Reputation: 2,296 Days Won: 29 Joined: 12/24/2001 Author Share Posted October 30, 2007 I have yet to see anyone show their qualifications ... probably because none are ... ;DOkay, we know the ONE play was bad ... but please show me the other glaring calls and don't show your ignorance with saying everything. Show specifics.Go BULLS !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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