E.T. Posted August 27, 2006 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 4,702 Content Count: 37,104 Reputation: 2,049 Days Won: 29 Joined: 12/24/2001 Share Posted August 27, 2006 Don't shoot the messenger!Three Starters Facing SuspensionsBy BRETT MCMURPHY and GREGG BECNEL Published: Aug 26, 2006TAMPA Three projected starters for the University of South Florida  running back Ricky Ponton, wide receiver Jackie Chambers and defensive end Josh Julmiste  will miss this season's first two games and possibly the first six games after because of a second positive drug test. Chambers and Julmiste told The Tampa Tribune they have appealed to have their suspensions reduced from six games to two. games. Ponton said he was told by USF Coach Jim Leavitt not to comment, but USF sources said Ponton also has appealed his suspension. "The appeal process takes two or three weeks; next week is the third week [since the appeal]," Chambers said. "I made a mistake. I'm just a human being. Everybody makes mistakes." The appeals are based on a recent change in the school's substance-abuse policy, reducing the percentage of games missed for a second positive test from 50 percent of the team's games to 20 percent. "It was supposed to be six games, but it's [been appealed] to be only the first two games," Julmiste said. "Right now it looks like only the first two games  McNeese State and FIU." During the 2005-06 school year, USF's substance-abuse policy stated an athlete with a second positive test would be suspended from 50 percent of the team's games. If the athlete's second positive test occurred after the regular season, ended, the suspension carried over to the next season. However, for the 2006-07 school year, which begins Monday, the penalty for a second positive test will be reduced to only a suspension from 20 percent of the team's games. While not talking specifically about Ponton, Chambers and Julmiste, USF associate athletic director AD Barry Clements, the administrator of USF's sports medicine department, said a football player testing that tested positive for a second time after the Dec..31 Meineke Car Care Bowl and before the 2006-07 school year would be suspended for 50 percent of games in the 2006 season. However, "anything can be appealed," Clements said. "If anybody did [violate team rules]," Leavitt said, "I wouldn't tell you anyway. I wouldn't even tell you if a guy violated any rules. It would never happen. That's between me and this football team." USF assistant athletic director John Gerdes said "we will announce any suspensions when we deem appropriate." The substance-abuse policy indicates a student-athlete may appeal a positive test, but doesn't address reducing the length of a suspension. Any appeal would be heard by a three-person committee  USF's dean of students Tom Miller, associate AD for compliance Steve Horton and USF's faculty representative for athletics Suresh Khator. The committee forwards its recommendation to Athletic Director Doug Woolard, whose decision is final. The reduction in the percentage of games suspended from 50 to 20 percent for the 2006-07 school year was approved by Woolard based on a recommendation from Clements, assistant AD Steve Walz and USF's sports medicine staff, Clements said. "I'm hurt I let my team down," Chambers said. "I let my coaches down. I just have a lot of things I have to do right." After a second positive test, USF athletes can continue practicing with approval from Woolard and the respective head coach. All three players have been practicing since USF's initial practice on Aug..7. Ponton, Chambers and Julmiste each completed spring drills as the projected starter at their respective positions. However, they are no longer mentioned among the first two units by Leavitt or their respective position coaches. Ponton, a sophomore from Hillsborough High, was slated to replace senior Andre Hall after rushing for 373 yards as Hall's backup last season. This fall, Leavitt said Ponton isn't among USF's top three or four backs. Ponton said he has he's been slowed by a left hamstring injury. "It's always tough to get hurt deep in two-a-days," Ponton said. "It's kind of rough to deal with it mentality and physically, but trainer Steve [Walz] is getting me back in the groove. I should be good to go in a little while." Julmiste, a sophomore from Miramar and the younger brother of senior quarterback Pat Julmiste, started one game last season. He was expected to replace graduated senior Jon Simmons, but is behind junior walk-on Treco Bellamy and freshman Aaron Harris, Leavitt said. Chambers, a junior from Miami Edison, started 11 games last season at receiver and was the Big East's leading punt returner. Senior Ean Randolph has replaced Chambers as USF's punt returner, Leavitt said. All USF student-athletes are subject to random drug tests. There is no suspension for a first positive test, but the athletes are required to attend counseling and will be tested on a regular basis for the remainder of their USF careers. While the players' second positive test occurred in the past eight months, it's unknown when their first positive tests occurred. A third positive test results in an athlete losing their remaining eligibility at USF and they are removed from scholarship. http://www.tbo.com/sports/bulls/MGBW768PCRE.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Man Posted August 27, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 503 Content Count: 3,381 Reputation: 152 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/07/2002 Share Posted August 27, 2006 Stupid asses! Yes I know they are just kids and I should be more understanding.....blah...blah... We do not need this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80mins Posted August 27, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 191 Content Count: 2,363 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/30/2005 Share Posted August 27, 2006 *sigh* we all love the green and gold... let's keep going for the gold and stay away from the green, fellas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minotaur Posted August 27, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 111 Content Count: 996 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/24/2002 Share Posted August 27, 2006 Yeah mon, come to USF and smoke out, its great mon. > Thanks for getting the story Brett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.T. Posted August 27, 2006 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 4,702 Content Count: 37,104 Reputation: 2,049 Days Won: 29 Joined: 12/24/2001 Author Share Posted August 27, 2006 They did let their team down ... and their fans! Knew it is wrong - STRIKE ONE Did it and got caught - STRIKE TWO Then get caught another time . . . STRIKE THREE... just plain selfish. > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewbull Posted August 27, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 479 Content Count: 1,991 Reputation: 15 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/04/2002 Share Posted August 27, 2006 Maybe its the same stuff Barry & Company took? Any link to Anderson and Balco? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFMikeB Posted August 27, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 826 Content Count: 10,874 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 2 Joined: 05/01/2003 Share Posted August 27, 2006 They should lose their scholarships and team eligibility after a second positive drug test, not the third. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarling Bull Posted August 27, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 35 Content Count: 6,528 Reputation: 232 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/19/2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 I agree, once is a mistake. 2 is unacceptable. They aren't stupid, they know what they're doing. > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullsmania Posted August 27, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 151 Content Count: 2,705 Reputation: 20 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/23/2001 Share Posted August 27, 2006 I know college is a place to try different things and I will respect the arguments about how they are kids and we all tried things in college but most of us weren't student-athletes and weren't tested for drugs. It seems to me that USF's football team is becoming synonymous with pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted August 27, 2006 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,575 Content Count: 71,816 Reputation: 9,524 Days Won: 404 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted August 27, 2006 "If anybody did [violate team rules]," Leavitt said, "I wouldn't tell you anyway. I wouldn't even tell you if a guy violated any rules. It would never happen. That's between me and this football team."  USF assistant athletic director John Gerdes said "we will announce any suspensions when we deem appropriate."Good for them .......... Screw the press on stuff like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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