Ryan Odom to VCU

[Chardizard]

Started his career as a GA at USF.  Makes 800k at Utah State, imagine we can pay him a 1.2 to 1.3.  From the east coast.  Lets go get him.

 

(in before "keep dreaming")  

[smazza]

ill pass

[USFBulls12]

Why do people on here always think we need to hire someone from USF? Same thing happens when we’re hiring football coaches, the old guys on this forum start throwing out alums who had mediocre success as a player or assistant may years or even decades ago and haven’t done much since. I think the nostalgia of the younger years for many is strong on TBP. Going to a particular school or being the water boy at USF 25 years ago doesn’t mean anything and should not be considered in determining hires. The exception to that is if the individual was a head coach with a winning record and proven coaching formula at another school prior to consideration. We all went to USF too, doesn’t mean any of us could coach a D1 football or basketball program with success.

[theman123]

41 minutes ago, USFBulls12 said:

Why do people on here always think we need to hire someone from USF?  .... We all went to USF too, doesn’t mean any of us could coach a D1 football or basketball program with success.

I think it's reasonable to think that an opportunity at a school you previously worked for would be more appealing to someone that had some level of familiarity to that program then someone who doesn't have any. Also, Ryan Odom is the coach that is 160-102 all time with a couple of NCAA tournament appearances, a little bit more experience than the rest of us  

Edited March 17, 2023 by theman123

[SilverBull]

Actually, I don't think our alumni base of support is such that being an alumnus really means as much in the hiring process at USF as it does at older, more-established programs.  And I don't think it will factor highly in any hiring criteria of USF admin.

This is really a hire we can't afford to miss on.  So that means we probably will.

[USFBulls12]

51 minutes ago, theman123 said:

I think it's reasonable to think that an opportunity at a school you previously worked for would be more appealing to someone that had some level of familiarity to that program then someone who doesn't have any. Also, Ryan Odom is the coach that is 160-102 all time with a couple of NCAA tournament appearances, a little bit more experience than the rest of us  

Yep, and as I've said, a coach with a winning record coach with a proven coach formula is an exception. But the fact that Odom was a graduate assistant from 1996-1997 means NOTHING anymore. He's had 9 other jobs since then, the program nor the facilities are the same. 2023 USF is not 1997 USF so I'm certain he has no higher level of familiarity with our program than someone else who can tour the campus and read a wikipedia entry. Wouldn't hate having a successful coach take over and turn around the program regardless of where he made a pit stop in his career, that's for sure. 

[Chardizard]

4 hours ago, theman123 said:

I think it's reasonable to think that an opportunity at a school you previously worked for would be more appealing to someone that had some level of familiarity to that program then someone who doesn't have any. Also, Ryan Odom is the coach that is 160-102 all time with a couple of NCAA tournament appearances, a little bit more experience than the rest of us  

Exactly, I think even a sliver of familiarity means something.  And the names being thrown around are too unrealistic.  Pitino, Mike Brey...come on.  If you don't like Odom that's fine, but a coach with his type of track record is what we need to be looking for.  I thought he might be a good hire before I even realized he was ever at USF.     

[belgianbull]

43 minutes ago, Chardizard said:

Exactly, I think even a sliver of familiarity means something.  And the names being thrown around are too unrealistic.  Pitino, Mike Brey...come on.  If you don't like Odom that's fine, but a coach with his type of track record is what we need to be looking for.  I thought he might be a good hire before I even realized he was ever at USF.     

 Pittino is currently coaching Iona, so I don't see why USF couldn't be in the mix. Odom wouldn't be the worst hire, but I see better hires then him that are in our range. 

One of the benefits of going with a coach from a good mid major (Richey, Odom, May) is that maybe they could bring their best players with them.

Edited March 17, 2023 by belgianbull

[olafberserker]

27 minutes ago, belgianbull said:

 Pittino is currently coaching Iona, so I don't see why USF couldn't be in the mix. Odom wouldn't be the worst hire, but I see better hires then him that are in our range. 

One of the benefits of going with a coach from a good mid major (Richey, Odom, May) is that maybe they could bring their best players with them.

Because P5 schools are interested now.  We missed our shot when he needed a reboot

[Brad]

6 hours ago, USFBulls12 said:

The exception to that is if the individual was a head coach with a winning record and proven coaching formula at another school prior to consideration.

Which is Ryan Odom.