USF’s goal is to have 13-25% of the project include local, minority-owned businesses

[Bull Matrix]

Just make it happen! USF First! 

[Friscobull]

1 hour ago, Bull Daly said:

F woke!

NEB gave a much more thorough explanation and I am simply explaining what is being taught, I am still in the corporate world so I don’t opine on the issue one way or the other for fear of someone being offended.  I am keeping my head down and chugging toward the finish line bobbing and weaving to avoid being cancelled.   

[Gatorbull325]

9 hours ago, USFBulls12 said:

"USF’s goal is to have 13-25% of the project include local, minority-owned businesses." Stop with this bull and just build the stadium with the best companies offering the lowest bid. If that comes from "minority-owned businesses", great! If it doesn't, that's great too. Pick the best, not the most diverse.

I had this job in which my boss admitted to me that if he sees a group of Black contractors working on a house in his neighborhood and doesn't see a white foreman or "person in charge" He will get suspicious and call the cops. I've had white coworkers whom I worked with for 2 years, went to lunch with, get fired for going on a racist rant about Black people. In the end, there are plenty of negative generalizations and stereotypes that a "certain group" of people STILL have of minorities. So unfortunately, an "effort" has to be made to give minorities an opportunity. I came to UF in 1995 as a skinny 5'11, 160 Ib, non athletic looking black guy. Do you know how many times somebody asked me if I played football? It is what it is my friend. They are basically trying to get %13 - 25% of the $300 Million worth of work to go to LOCAL (businesses from the Tampa area) and Minorities (business owned by a Non-White, Women owned,  or a owner with a disability, Veteran owned etc). That means that all White owned business can STILL get 75 - 87% of the $300 million worth of jobs. Do you think discrimination is not a reality?

[Bull Matrix]

47 minutes ago, Friscobull said:

NEB gave a much more thorough explanation and I am simply explaining what is being taught, I am still in the corporate world so I don’t opine on the issue one way or the other for fear of someone being offended.  I am keeping my head down and chugging toward the finish line bobbing and weaving to avoid being cancelled.   

lol I know what you mean. Think many of us are going through the same thing. Listen to Fake Woke or Cancelled by Tom MacDonald and it will open up people’s minds. No more of this divisive woke stuff. USF first! Go Bulls!!

[Brad]

30 minutes ago, Gatorbull325 said:

Do you know how many times somebody asked me if I played football?

I'm tall and was always asked if I played basketball.  I got asked that likely thousands of time.  It's worse for my 6'10" friend.

So let me get this straight you were unathletic and someone asked you if you played football?  What about badminton?  Unathletic and skinny and that was the best question you got?  I haven't seen many unathletic and skinny guys out there.  Strange question to ask.

Not to go too far off topic.  I'd also add that the capitalistic system - the very same system the Left hypes as evil - is the exact reason I have people of all colors and sizes in my area of responsibility.  We hire the best to produce the best.  Most places I have worked over the last 40 years operated in the same way.  In doing so, have achieved a strong workforce and are beyond any imposed diversity, equity quotas.  

But we are dealing with a University, likely a purveyor of much of the groupthink and churning out degrees in such social justice, strife, and structures.  It's too bad every situation is assumed to be harboring discrimination when that is not true.  With that sort of thinking it will never truly be resolved in the interest of those hurt by true discrimination.

[zarnozdabull]

33 minutes ago, Brad said:

I'm tall and was always asked if I played basketball.  I got asked that likely thousands of time.  It's worse for my 6'10" friend.

So let me get this straight you were unathletic and someone asked you if you played football?  What about badminton?  Unathletic and skinny and that was the best question you got?  I haven't seen many unathletic and skinny guys out there.  Strange question to ask.

Not to go too far off topic.  I'd also add that the capitalistic system - the very same system the Left hypes as evil - is the exact reason I have people of all colors and sizes in my area of responsibility.  We hire the best to produce the best.  Most places I have worked over the last 40 years operated in the same way.  In doing so, have achieved a strong workforce and are beyond any imposed diversity, equity quotas.  

But we are dealing with a University, likely a purveyor of much of the groupthink and churning out degrees in such social justice, strife, and structures.  It's too bad every situation is assumed to be harboring discrimination when that is not true.  With that sort of thinking it will never truly be resolved in the interest of those hurt by true discrimination.

OH BOY HERE WE GO

[Rocky Style]

Haha I won't comment because the moment I do threads tend to get moved.  

That being said, I am excited for the stadium!  

[Friscobull]

54 minutes ago, Gatorbull325 said:

I've had white coworkers whom I worked with for 2 years, went to lunch with, get fired for going on a racist rant about Black people. 

That is odd that you have had more than one or even one for that matter, sounds like a toxic workplace.  How many black people did you go to lunch with that have been fired for going on a racist rant about white people?

[BullyPulpit]

43 minutes ago, Brad said:

I'm tall and was always asked if I played basketball.  I got asked that likely thousands of time.  It's worse for my 6'10" friend.

So let me get this straight you were unathletic and someone asked you if you played football?  What about badminton?  Unathletic and skinny and that was the best question you got?  I haven't seen many unathletic and skinny guys out there.  Strange question to ask.

Not to go too far off topic.  I'd also add that the capitalistic system - the very same system the Left hypes as evil - is the exact reason I have people of all colors and sizes in my area of responsibility.  We hire the best to produce the best.  Most places I have worked over the last 40 years operated in the same way.  In doing so, have achieved a strong workforce and are beyond any imposed diversity, equity quotas.  

But we are dealing with a University, likely a purveyor of much of the groupthink and churning out degrees in such social justice, strife, and structures.  It's too bad every situation is assumed to be harboring discrimination when that is not true.  With that sort of thinking it will never truly be resolved in the interest of those hurt by true discrimination.

Anecdotes are great, but there have been decades of studies that show that implicit bias is a real thing and adversely impacts minorities. I don't pretend to know the solution to solving the problem, but we can't just sit here and act like it doesn't exist.  

Edited July 8, 2022 by BullyPulpit

[Gatorbull325]

38 minutes ago, Brad said:

I'm tall and was always asked if I played basketball.  I got asked that likely thousands of time.  It's worse for my 6'10" friend.

So let me get this straight you were unathletic and someone asked you if you played football?  What about badminton?  Unathletic and skinny and that was the best question you got?  I haven't seen many unathletic and skinny guys out there.  Strange question to ask.

Not to go too far off topic.  I'd also add that the capitalistic system - the very same system the Left hypes as evil - is the exact reason I have people of all colors and sizes in my area of responsibility.  We hire the best to produce the best.  Most places I have worked over the last 40 years operated in the same way.  In doing so, have achieved a strong workforce and are beyond any imposed diversity, equity quotas.  

But we are dealing with a University, likely a purveyor of much of the groupthink and churning out degrees in such social justice, strife, and structures.  It's too bad every situation is assumed to be harboring discrimination when that is not true.  With that sort of thinking it will never truly be resolved in the interest of those hurt by true discrimination.

You are TALL...a common trait of basketball players. I was skinny w/o much muscle tone (I hit the gym my 2nd year and resolved that lol ) and got the football question A LOT. To me, "imposed diversity" is just ensuring that you at least take a look or give an opportunity to minorities (which is not just Black people). To me if you are giving all people an equal chance, then you will naturally have a diverse workforce without even trying. And just like you stated, you will probably even have more diversity than what is required.