BE/AAC Conference Discussion

[DELdaBull]

Unless my eyes deceived me (along with the stats) the Big East was a better conference overall.  

[CousinRicky]

2 hours ago, bulloni said:

USF Strength of Schedule by year

BIG EAST
2005: 50th out of 119
2006: 61st out of 119
2007: 22nd out of 119
2008: 68th out of 119
2009: 59th out of 120
2010: 70th out of 120
2011: 52nd out of 120
2012: 56th out of 124

AMERICAN
2013: 66th out of 125
2014: 85th out of 128
2015: 72nd out of 128
2016: 86th out of 128
2017: 106th out of 130

No doubt the Big East was tougher, eye test backs this up as far as I remember

Without knowing the out of conference foes and their rankings it is hard to compare. For example in 2011 didn't we play UF up there. Don't know how good they were and how it affects our SOS.  And we have to remember that in the last 3 years all of our opponents' SOS was knocked down by playing USF.  Or doesn't it work that way.

But I do believe the BE was better overall.

Edited June 20, 2022 by CousinRicky

[NewEnglandBull]

BE was better but only marginally so. Each had a handful of decent trams on the top. The difference was in the lower and middle tier. 

[Rocky Style]

I don't think it has been close to the BE.  

[USFRaider]

All I know is that starting in 2023, the AAC is way worse than the Big East. 

[79 Bull]

BE may have not been a better conference on the field but had much higher school brand recognition to the national casual fan for both football and basketball.  It's all about the company that you keep.

GO BULLS!

[Peatearpan]

3 hours ago, Outlaw said:

Spot on and think of the quality of athletes on all of the teams in the big east to the aac. There was a huge difference in top to bottom of all the big east teams versus the aac.

We could also look at how many players were drafted out of each concference.

 

1 hour ago, USFRaider said:

All I know is that starting in 2023, the AAC is way worse than the Big East. 

But what about when compared to conference USA during the same time frame the Big East existed ?

[USFRaider]

11 minutes ago, Peatearpan said:

We could also look at how many players were drafted out of each concference.

 

But what about when compared to conference USA during the same time frame the Big East existed ?

I nominate you to conduct that research

[Brad]

Every time, which is infrequent, that I doubt my position on this AND when people say we just got beat too often by Rutgers or the "collapse/plateau" stuff my mind goes to something I thought was pretty crazy.  And I also think of it in this case, At just one position in the Big East we got to experience the following on the opposite side - all at one time:

Pitt:   LeSean MCoy 2007-08; Deion Lewis 2009-10
Rutgers: Ray Rice 2005-07
UConn: Donald Brown 2006-08
WVU: Steve Slaton 2005-07

2007 was a weird college football season, no doubt.  But never has there been a stable of college RBs like the Big East had in 2007.  We've never been good at stopping physical backs at any time in program history.  See Cook, Dalvin or Taylor, Jonathan.

And to think in our entire existence the only back that could come close to being considered in that group is Marlon Mack.  I don't think the AAC has ever been able to claim any such preponderance of talent in a single, critical skill position.

[bulloni]

35 minutes ago, Brad said:

Every time, which is infrequent, that I doubt my position on this AND when people say we just got beat too often by Rutgers or the "collapse/plateau" stuff my mind goes to something I thought was pretty crazy.  And I also think of it in this case, At just one position in the Big East we got to experience the following on the opposite side - all at one time:

Pitt:   LeSean MCoy 2007-08; Deion Lewis 2009-10
Rutgers: Ray Rice 2005-07
UConn: Donald Brown 2006-08
WVU: Steve Slaton 2005-07

2007 was a weird college football season, no doubt.  But never has there been a stable of college RBs like the Big East had in 2007.  We've never been good at stopping physical backs at any time in program history.  See Cook, Dalvin or Taylor, Jonathan.

And to think in our entire existence the only back that could come close to being considered in that group is Marlon Mack.  I don't think the AAC has ever been able to claim any such preponderance of talent in a single, critical skill position.

Pitt had Revis in 2006 and Aaron Donald in 2010-2012.

Just after google searching a few of those old Big East teams there's no doubt when it comes to NFL talent. Almost everyone was having a few guys drafted every year, and a lot in the high rounds.