Mission9 Posted July 16, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 60 Content Count: 4,074 Reputation: 467 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/09/2003 Share Posted July 16, 2021 1 hour ago, puc86 said: No it’s not, what I said makes you more likely to win in the future CCS had demonstrated at a far greater level than the kid of the guy that gave the bumble bee speech. There has never once been a person excited about CSH there is nothing exciting about him and that was the reason he was hired. I didn’t disqualify him for losing a game against CJL, I disqualified him for having a face that looks like this which is why he lost to CJL (you are putting the cart before the horse). Have a good day, if you want to. While I certainly cannot compete with the fervor you have over this subject, I am definitely in agreement with you that this hire was a disaster from the outset. I recall both of us being nothing short of miffed that this was the direction the powers that be wanted to go in. It was a "safe" choice in that he is a friendly person and not prone to butt heads with the local media. The only thing I disagree with you on is the assertion that no one was exited about him. I believe most of my "arguments" on this board were with people who adamantly defended 'ol Skippy Poo. Incidentally, the odd thing is all of the ones which I had the worst back and forths with are no longer here (or no longer post). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted July 16, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted July 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Mission9 said: While I certainly cannot compete with the fervor you have over this subject, I am definitely in agreement with you that this hire was a disaster from the outset. I recall both of us being nothing short of miffed that this was the direction the powers that be wanted to go in. It was a "safe" choice in that he is a friendly person and not prone to butt heads with the local media. The only thing I disagree with you on is the assertion that no one was exited about him. I believe most of my "arguments" on this board were with people who adamantly defended 'ol Skippy Poo. Incidentally, the odd thing is all of the ones which I had the worst back and forths with are no longer here (or no longer post). They were excited about a new era enough that they convinced themselves that a Holtz new error was improvement but there is nothing in his history of nepotism followed by less success than we were already demonstrating that pointed towards improvement. He accomplished everything he was supposed to accomplish here, unfortunately winning wasn’t a part of the equation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted July 16, 2021 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 96,987 Reputation: 10,808 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Author Share Posted July 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, Mission9 said: Incidentally, the odd thing is all of the ones which I had the worst back and forths with are no longer here (or no longer post). I think that's funny. Similar to the Jim haters that wanted him out (before the McMurphy/Miller tale). Once the program tanked, they packed up and left TBP. Couldn't face the music, handle the heat. Losers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted July 16, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted July 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Brad said: I think that's funny. Similar to the Jim haters that wanted him out (before the McMurphy/Miller tale). Once the program tanked, they packed up and left TBP. Couldn't face the music, handle the heat. Losers. Steve shockingly enough remains and still believes he was right, despite how many coaches we continue to churn and how high that plateau now looks from the abyss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peatearpan Posted July 16, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 42 Content Count: 2,512 Reputation: 827 Days Won: 3 Joined: 11/30/2018 Share Posted July 16, 2021 4 hours ago, puc86 said: Steve shockingly enough remains and still believes he was right, despite how many coaches we continue to churn and how high that plateau now looks from the abyss. Maybe Steve was right, and CJL was the anomaly and all these other coaches are the true form of our program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted July 16, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted July 16, 2021 30 minutes ago, Peatearpan said: Maybe Steve was right, and CJL was the anomaly and all these other coaches are the true form of our program. Except his premise was the opposite and that we were on the cusp of taking off (apparently the fastest rise in college football history wasn’t quite up to snuff) and that CJL was the albatross dragging us down. It seems like CJL, now that we have comps, actually performed better than the greatness his record indicated. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peatearpan Posted July 17, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 42 Content Count: 2,512 Reputation: 827 Days Won: 3 Joined: 11/30/2018 Share Posted July 17, 2021 4 hours ago, puc86 said: Except his premise was the opposite and that we were on the cusp of taking off (apparently the fastest rise in college football history wasn’t quite up to snuff) and that CJL was the albatross dragging us down. It seems like CJL, now that we have comps, actually performed better than the greatness his record indicated. I really want to see Leavitt get a head coaching job and succeed. I don’t see how his name never comes up for these openings. Maybe he automatically refuses any head coach offers and only wants to be a coordinator or position coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted July 17, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted July 17, 2021 9 hours ago, Mission9 said: While I certainly cannot compete with the fervor you have over this subject, I am definitely in agreement with you that this hire was a disaster from the outset. I recall both of us being nothing short of miffed that this was the direction the powers that be wanted to go in. It was a "safe" choice in that he is a friendly person and not prone to butt heads with the local media. The only thing I disagree with you on is the assertion that no one was exited about him. I believe most of my "arguments" on this board were with people who adamantly defended 'ol Skippy Poo. Incidentally, the odd thing is all of the ones which I had the worst back and forths with are no longer here (or no longer post). You would be in the minority…99% of people in this board were happy with the hire (although this does not mean that 99% supported CJL getting fired). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted July 17, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted July 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Peatearpan said: I really want to see Leavitt get a head coaching job and succeed. I don’t see how his name never comes up for these openings. Maybe he automatically refuses any head coach offers and only wants to be a coordinator or position coach? I think you know that this is complete fiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friscobull Posted July 17, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 7 Content Count: 10,845 Reputation: 3,962 Days Won: 67 Joined: 05/23/2019 Share Posted July 17, 2021 10 hours ago, puc86 said: Steve shockingly enough remains and still believes he was right, despite how many coaches we continue to churn and how high that plateau now looks from the abyss. Steve?? Smazza?? Or someone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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