puc86 Posted June 28, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted June 28, 2021 6 hours ago, CousinRicky said: Undue? Any charity gift is undue. The pro teams aren't a charity. USF has produced a few hundred + thousand grads. Hoping for some support from them isn't outrageous. 6 conference champions this year. If winning makes it due we've done that this year. I know you only care about football but one could argue we're doing okay overall in athletics. Yes undue. This isn’t a real charity it’s sports entertainment. If you are playing football as your charitable contribution to the community people are going to be a little less understanding of it than if you haven’t quite cured cancer or fed every child. In those things you have an actual value to the community here if you are adding more grief to people’s lives and further embarrassing the university we probably wouldn’t be any less served from a contribution standpoint if you simply stopped pretending and just went away. Every single year the NCAA takes steps away from the charade that there really is much of a line between pro and college sports and we can hopefully at some point stop our lies that this has anything to do with academics (which the university has plenty of actual scholarships for). Every single pro and college team has their attendance impacted by their win percentage and if MK doesn’t like that he should solve it like most of them do, by actually trying to win some games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinRicky Posted June 28, 2021 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 582 Content Count: 22,676 Reputation: 5,813 Days Won: 108 Joined: 09/13/2007 Share Posted June 28, 2021 39 minutes ago, puc86 said: Yes undue. This isn’t a real charity it’s sports entertainment. If you are playing football as your charitable contribution to the community people are going to be a little less understanding of it than if you haven’t quite cured cancer or fed every child. In those things you have an actual value to the community here if you are adding more grief to people’s lives and further embarrassing the university we probably wouldn’t be any less served from a contribution standpoint if you simply stopped pretending and just went away. Every single year the NCAA takes steps away from the charade that there really is much of a line between pro and college sports and we can hopefully at some point stop our lies that this has anything to do with academics (which the university has plenty of actual scholarships for). Every single pro and college team has their attendance impacted by their win percentage and if MK doesn’t like that he should solve it like most of them do, by actually trying to win some games. Other than seat donations I get a tax write off so it is a donation. And, again, Kelly's hire is one Covid year into his tenure but f Kelly for wanting more fan support. I can't wait to have a Scotch with you someday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted June 28, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted June 28, 2021 23 minutes ago, CousinRicky said: Other than seat donations I get a tax write off so it is a donation. And, again, Kelly's hire is one Covid year into his tenure but f Kelly for wanting more fan support. I can't wait to have a Scotch with you someday. I did try to meet up with you once when I realized we were in boxes that were pretty close to each other but I’m sure I am missing out more so than you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinRicky Posted June 28, 2021 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 582 Content Count: 22,676 Reputation: 5,813 Days Won: 108 Joined: 09/13/2007 Share Posted June 28, 2021 7 hours ago, puc86 said: I did try to meet up with you once when I realized we were in boxes that were pretty close to each other but I’m sure I am missing out more so than you are. I can't remember what people look like so it is hard for me to come over. I'm not sure we've met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jonesy Bull Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 I'll just say this about the Attendance topic, which is a favorite bashing topic on this board.....Ever since we were relegated from BCS to G5 and playing against lower level competition with really no hope of ever playing for a national championship (yes we had a path in the Big East), the Attendance was going to take a nose dive no matter how good of team or how flashy a QF type player came along. NOW, with the changes in the Playoff system, if we are really good, there are no excuses for the Attendance thing, especially if we continue to schedule big OOC games. Getting back to the Article, I will go out on a limb and say that we go 6-6 this year with a low level Bowl game. The following year we build off of that and really begin to take off.....I think we will finally find a real QB out of this new crop to develop, and some real playmakers on Offense. The Defense will automatically be better just with a more veteran presence and some new comers that should help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulloni Posted June 28, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 67 Content Count: 2,409 Reputation: 1,395 Days Won: 22 Joined: 02/01/2015 Share Posted June 28, 2021 29 minutes ago, Jonesy Bull said: I'll just say this about the Attendance topic, which is a favorite bashing topic on this board.....Ever since we were relegated from BCS to G5 and playing against lower level competition with really no hope of ever playing for a national championship (yes we had a path in the Big East), the Attendance was going to take a nose dive no matter how good of team or how flashy a QF type player came along. NOW, with the changes in the Playoff system, if we are really good, there are no excuses for the Attendance thing, especially if we continue to schedule big OOC games. Getting back to the Article, I will go out on a limb and say that we go 6-6 this year with a low level Bowl game. The following year we build off of that and really begin to take off.....I think we will finally find a real QB out of this new crop to develop, and some real playmakers on Offense. The Defense will automatically be better just with a more veteran presence and some new comers that should help. the things i'd do for 6-6... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDYZR Posted June 28, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 488 Content Count: 12,455 Reputation: 2,840 Days Won: 25 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted June 28, 2021 41 minutes ago, Jonesy Bull said: I'll just say this about the Attendance topic, which is a favorite bashing topic on this board.....Ever since we were relegated from BCS to G5 and playing against lower level competition with really no hope of ever playing for a national championship (yes we had a path in the Big East), the Attendance was going to take a nose dive no matter how good of team or how flashy a QF type player came along. NOW, with the changes in the Playoff system, if we are really good, there are no excuses for the Attendance thing, especially if we continue to schedule big OOC games. Getting back to the Article, I will go out on a limb and say that we go 6-6 this year with a low level Bowl game. The following year we build off of that and really begin to take off.....I think we will finally find a real QB out of this new crop to develop, and some real playmakers on Offense. The Defense will automatically be better just with a more veteran presence and some new comers that should help. 11 minutes ago, bulloni said: the things i'd do for 6-6... My goal/hope/wish... for this season is to want to stay in my seat for the whole game. For 20+ years I would never leave early, but the last few years have been so bad that I've left after the 1st series after half time in some games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted June 28, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 hour ago, CousinRicky said: I can't remember what people look like so it is hard for me to come over. I'm not sure we've met. It's not your memory, we have not met. I just tried to see if you wanted to meet in the common area of the club during a game we were getting blown out when from pictures posted at the game there was realization that we were in the same general area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulloni Posted June 28, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 67 Content Count: 2,409 Reputation: 1,395 Days Won: 22 Joined: 02/01/2015 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Any word on how many season tickets we have sold so far? Saw UCF tweeted out a week ago that they've sold 24,446 season tickets so far: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted June 28, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,895 Content Count: 66,073 Reputation: 2,431 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted June 28, 2021 usf will get the fans in droves if they consistently win 4 hours ago, Jonesy Bull said: I'll just say this about the Attendance topic, which is a favorite bashing topic on this board.....Ever since we were relegated from BCS to G5 and playing against lower level competition with really no hope of ever playing for a national championship (yes we had a path in the Big East), the Attendance was going to take a nose dive no matter how good of team or how flashy a QF type player came along. NOW, with the changes in the Playoff system, if we are really good, there are no excuses for the Attendance thing, especially if we continue to schedule big OOC games. Getting back to the Article, I will go out on a limb and say that we go 6-6 this year with a low level Bowl game. The following year we build off of that and really begin to take off.....I think we will finally find a real QB out of this new crop to develop, and some real playmakers on Offense. The Defense will automatically be better just with a more veteran presence and some new comers that should help. great point 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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