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Tamp Bay Times lowering expectations for USF


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Thankfully we have the TBT (whatever they are these days) setting high expectations of Football and low expectations in general.

 

USF needs to remember what kind of school it is—and isn’t | Editorial

USF is not Harvard or Stanford. And that’s okay.
 
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The University of South Florida bungled the sudden announcement that it was closing the undergraduate College of Education program. Rather than tell their board of trustees, members of Congress, and local school district leaders the school kept the decision largely under wraps. Now, USF has taken stock of the mistake and seems to be backtracking. Last week, administrators said they would retain some undergraduate degrees in the college but still planned to cut down on the number of undergraduate programs. As they work on their plan, they should keep in mind that many of the newly-minted teachers with their undergraduate degrees walk right into jobs with local school districts, many of which come with a solid starting salary of about $47,500. Employability must count for something.

USF administrators appear to have taken note of the blitz of negative feedback. President Steve Currall, provost and executive vice president Ralph Wilcox and interim dean of the College of Education Judith Ponticell released a statement late last week after a meeting with local school superintendents. Although the statement did not offer many specifics, it reflected a clear change in tune. “While changes are needed at USF after a 63 percent drop in the college’s undergraduate enrollment over the past decade,” the statement read, “we intend to continue offering carefully selected undergraduate degrees in education, though likely fewer than the nine baccalaureate degrees, 15 majors, five minors and 18 concentrations currently available.”

This is a concession to local K-12 school superintendents, who were up in arms when they first learned the news that USF was planning to eliminate the undergraduate degree program. Six of them penned an op-ed in the Tampa Bay Times noting their shock. Their main point: School districts have come to depend on USF’s College of Education for well-trained teachers. In Pasco County, for example, roughly 38 percent of the district’s 5,000 teachers got their degrees from USF. “There appears to have been no consideration as to the devastating impact it will have on an already challenging teacher shortage,” the superintendents wrote.

Still, USF administrators appear focused on changing the program -- even if it is not eliminated. They cite dwindling enrollment numbers, down by more than half between 2009 to 2019, and a need for budget cuts. Restructuring from a four-year undergraduate program to a fifth-year Master of Arts in Teaching program would reportedly save the university $6.8 million over the next two years. Their models for the Master’s program include Harvard, Stanford and University of California, Berkeley.

USF leaders have made clear they want to increase excellence at the public university. They have lofty and noble goals. But the value of a public university is not just its quality instruction, but service to its community. And this growing community needs skilled teachers, not just a university with a top-tier reputation. Preeminence status is important, but so is turning out employable graduates.

 

Editorials are the institutional voice of the Tampa Bay Times. The members of the Editorial Board are Times Chairman and CEO Paul Tash, Editor of Editorials Graham Brink, and editorial writers Elizabeth Djinis, John Hill and Jim Verhulst. Follow @TBTimes_Opinion on Twitter for more opinion news.

 

 

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It's a shame you had to read all that bulls hit to get to the final paragraph:

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USF leaders have made clear they want to increase excellence at the public university. They have lofty and noble goals. But the value of a public university is not just its quality instruction, but service to its community. And this growing community needs skilled teachers, not just a university with a top-tier reputation. Preeminence status is important, but so is turning out employable graduates.

 

Stupid.  STFU Tampa Bay Times.  USF as a lesser public servant resonates and permeates that bunch of yahoos still holding on to their dying enterprise.  Not sure their advice is of utmost value.

/end rant

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Let the new "State Colleges" (read: community colleges now offering a couple of BA's) turn out graduates if they don't care about the reputation of the university.  That reputation serves all the programs.  What I don't understand is if there is such a need, why small enrollment?  You'd think that it would be competitive.  I thought $47,500 would not be too bad just starting out.

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The problem is Poynter is still the real deal and they are the real company behind the times.  The folks that run the times are out of touch with the market they serve.  They think they are the NYT and are read nationally.  They are local rag run by an internationally recognized journalism think tank.

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On 11/29/2020 at 1:20 PM, Brad said:

It's a shame you had to read all that bulls hit to get to the final paragraph:

 

Stupid.  STFU Tampa Bay Times.  USF as a lesser public servant resonates and permeates that bunch of yahoos still holding on to their dying enterprise.  Not sure their advice is of utmost value.

/end rant

All the reason more I cut my financial ties to them.

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The TBT is necessary to keep local and state government honest. Local journalism is dying. I subscribe out of civic duty, despite questionable takes like this one.


There's a lot of UF grads working there, so I can see a reason for this garbage take. USF is making a B line to joining the AAU, so TBTs take isn't going to do anything to derail that.

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