El_Toro_86 Posted October 24, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 176 Content Count: 8,612 Reputation: 2,660 Days Won: 28 Joined: 12/14/2005 Author Share Posted October 24, 2020 I’m tired of talking about masks and the virus. Let’s get back to football. So how did the Bulls look last night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted October 24, 2020 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,610 Content Count: 74,505 Reputation: 10,795 Days Won: 422 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Just now, El_Toro_86 said: I’m tired of talking about masks and the virus. Let’s get back to football. So how did the Bulls look last night? Dude, the main reason we're talking about masks and the virus is because of how the Bulls looked last night .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted October 24, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted October 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, El_Toro_86 said: I’m tired of talking about masks and the virus. Let’s get back to football. So how did the Bulls look last night? Masks and the virus are a more uplifting topic 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dclenden Posted October 24, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 12 Content Count: 254 Reputation: 114 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/11/2015 Share Posted October 24, 2020 35 minutes ago, El_Toro_86 said: Do yourself a favor and stay in Spain. Show me one study that says these masks make a difference. Masks have become a fashion statement and a way to virtue signal. Some are bedazzled, some are crouched, some are buffs worn as masks and most people don’t wear them correctly anyway. If the entire nation wore properly fitted N95 masks that would make a difference, but thats not happening is it. The whole thing is a sham to get people to live in fear because when a society is in fear they can be controlled. And just for the record I’ve had the China virus and I’ve donated plasma. So STFU! I can not provide you with one study to support masks work, El Toro, though we now have over two dozen as I am a physician. Here's the evidence summarized in perhaps the most prestigious journals in the world, Nature, JAMA and PANS . I recognize that it doesn't fit your thesis that 'masks are a fashion statement'. I'm honestly not here to argue with you but misinformation is just that and must be corrected so others don't propagate stories that are untrue. 1. Nature: Oct 6, 2020 Summary: 'The science supports that face coverings are saving lives during the coronavirus pandemic, and yet the debate trundles on'. Face masks: what the data say The science supports that face coverings are saving lives during the coronavirus pandemic, and yet the debate trundles on. How much evidence is enough? The... 2. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America: April 10, 2020 Summary: 'Our review of the literature offers evidence in favor of widespread mask use to reduce community transmission'. https://files.fast.ai/papers/masks_lit_review.pdf 3. Journal of the America Medical Association Summary: Universal masking at MGB was associated with a significantly lower rate of SARS-CoV-2 positivity among HCWs https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2768533 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted October 24, 2020 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,610 Content Count: 74,505 Reputation: 10,795 Days Won: 422 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted October 24, 2020 1 minute ago, dclenden said: I can not provide you with one study to support masks work, El Toro, though we now have over two dozen as I am a physician. Here's the evidence summarized in perhaps the most prestigious journals in the world, Nature, JAMA and PANS . I recognize that it doesn't fit your thesis that 'masks are a fashion statement'. I'm honestly not here to argue with you but misinformation is just that and must be corrected so others don't propagate stories that are untrue. 1. Nature: Oct 6, 2020 Summary: 'The science supports that face coverings are saving lives during the coronavirus pandemic, and yet the debate trundles on'. Face masks: what the data say The science supports that face coverings are saving lives during the coronavirus pandemic, and yet the debate trundles on. How much evidence is enough? The... 2. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America: April 10, 2020 Summary: 'Our review of the literature offers evidence in favor of widespread mask use to reduce community transmission'. https://files.fast.ai/papers/masks_lit_review.pdf 3. Journal of the America Medical Association Summary: Universal masking at MGB was associated with a significantly lower rate of SARS-CoV-2 positivity among HCWs https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2768533 Fake news .... this thing will be gone by Easter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Toro_86 Posted October 24, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 176 Content Count: 8,612 Reputation: 2,660 Days Won: 28 Joined: 12/14/2005 Author Share Posted October 24, 2020 1 minute ago, dclenden said: I can not provide you with one study to support masks work, El Toro, though we now have over two dozen as I am a physician. Here's the evidence summarized in perhaps the most prestigious journals in the world, Nature, JAMA and PANS . I recognize that it doesn't fit your thesis that 'masks are a fashion statement'. I'm honestly not here to argue with you but misinformation is just that and must be corrected so others don't propagate stories that are untrue. 1. Nature: Oct 6, 2020 Summary: 'The science supports that face coverings are saving lives during the coronavirus pandemic, and yet the debate trundles on'. Face masks: what the data say The science supports that face coverings are saving lives during the coronavirus pandemic, and yet the debate trundles on. How much evidence is enough? The... 2. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America: April 10, 2020 Summary: 'Our review of the literature offers evidence in favor of widespread mask use to reduce community transmission'. https://files.fast.ai/papers/masks_lit_review.pdf 3. Journal of the America Medical Association Summary: Universal masking at MGB was associated with a significantly lower rate of SARS-CoV-2 positivity among HCWs https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2768533 Now if you can get everyone to wear it properly rather than as a chin strap... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJBulls Posted October 24, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 13 Content Count: 1,273 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2011 Share Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, dclenden said: I can not provide you with one study to support masks work, El Toro, though we now have over two dozen as I am a physician. Here's the evidence summarized in perhaps the most prestigious journals in the world, Nature, JAMA and PANS . I recognize that it doesn't fit your thesis that 'masks are a fashion statement'. I'm honestly not here to argue with you but misinformation is just that and must be corrected so others don't propagate stories that are untrue. 1. Nature: Oct 6, 2020 Summary: 'The science supports that face coverings are saving lives during the coronavirus pandemic, and yet the debate trundles on'. Face masks: what the data say The science supports that face coverings are saving lives during the coronavirus pandemic, and yet the debate trundles on. How much evidence is enough? The... 2. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America: April 10, 2020 Summary: 'Our review of the literature offers evidence in favor of widespread mask use to reduce community transmission'. https://files.fast.ai/papers/masks_lit_review.pdf 3. Journal of the America Medical Association Summary: Universal masking at MGB was associated with a significantly lower rate of SARS-CoV-2 positivity among HCWs https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2768533 When you're spaced 50 ft apart? That's his point...sorry let me add...outdoors... Edited October 24, 2020 by DJBulls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornada Posted October 24, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 22 Content Count: 1,341 Reputation: 370 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/26/2004 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Masks save lives it's a fact but just because the results are supported by government agencies there will always be idiots that believe it's a conspiracy. Just like the idiots that choose to smoke. Here puff on this and we guarantee that it will knock 10-20 years off your lifespan...all the smokers say ******** I'll smoke because I want to and I'll prove you wrong. My Dad was like that, I buried him two years ago (he died from lung cancer). For the last 9 years, My mom has been tied to 30' of tubing that's attached to an oxygen machine so that she can breath. Guess what..she was a smoker too. The world is full of idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Toro_86 Posted October 24, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 176 Content Count: 8,612 Reputation: 2,660 Days Won: 28 Joined: 12/14/2005 Author Share Posted October 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, DJBulls said: When you're spaced 50 ft apart? That's his point...sorry let me add...outdoors... Exactly! I follow the rules on masks everywhere I go. I just felt that being outdoors with no one within at least 50 feet and having to take it on and off while drinking a beverage is excessive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaBull Posted October 24, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 19 Content Count: 1,294 Reputation: 324 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/16/2013 Share Posted October 24, 2020 20 minutes ago, dclenden said: I can not provide you with one study to support masks work, El Toro, though we now have over two dozen as I am a physician. Here's the evidence summarized in perhaps the most prestigious journals in the world, Nature, JAMA and PANS . I recognize that it doesn't fit your thesis that 'masks are a fashion statement'. I'm honestly not here to argue with you but misinformation is just that and must be corrected so others don't propagate stories that are untrue. 1. Nature: Oct 6, 2020 Summary: 'The science supports that face coverings are saving lives during the coronavirus pandemic, and yet the debate trundles on'. Face masks: what the data say The science supports that face coverings are saving lives during the coronavirus pandemic, and yet the debate trundles on. How much evidence is enough? The... 2. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America: April 10, 2020 Summary: 'Our review of the literature offers evidence in favor of widespread mask use to reduce community transmission'. https://files.fast.ai/papers/masks_lit_review.pdf 3. Journal of the America Medical Association Summary: Universal masking at MGB was associated with a significantly lower rate of SARS-CoV-2 positivity among HCWs https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2768533 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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