puc86 Posted October 11, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted October 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Triple B said: Was Q a Harbaugh offense type qb? Because if he wasn't, it took Willie over 2 years to get that improvement after he picked a proper path ... Every other QB CWT recruited was a Harbaugh QB, every offense CWT ran was a Harbaugh offense, every Coach CWT hired was a Harbaugh coach and every word out of CWT’s mouth was a Harbaugh word. That he recruited a player that had tremendous upside at a host of positions outside of QB does not some how prove that his master plan was to transition away from the system he was fully bought into. He for whatever reason of desperation recognized his plan would never work here and for that I am grateful but it would have been even better to have made a hire that wouldn’t have had to waste 2 years going in the wrong direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted October 11, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted October 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Bull94 said: so you think Matt Floyd could have run the gulf coast offense successfully? lol Not exactly, what I think is that no one was ever going to successfully run the West Coast offense, not in one recruiting class, not in two, not in three and not in twenty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulls On Parade Posted October 11, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 23 Content Count: 10,199 Reputation: 1,714 Days Won: 2 Joined: 10/02/2005 Share Posted October 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, puc86 said: Coaches come in and show improvement year 1 all of the time, even more by year two and the majority of coaches that need a full three years to put a serviceable team together never get to see their 5 year plans come to fruition. Those year 1 situations are rare...typically where a coach just shut it down as a coach but it's a big program and still pulled in good talent. No McNeese State was going to happen no matter what....our team was soft and folded under little bit of adversity when punched in the face....similar as last nights game. We are so bad we arent even a good FCS team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull94 Posted October 11, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 22 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted October 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Bulls On Parade said: Those year 1 situations are rare...typically where a coach just shut it down as a coach but it's a big program and still pulled in good talent. No McNeese State was going to happen no matter what....our team was soft and folded under little bit of adversity when punched in the face....similar as last nights game. We are so bad we arent even a good FCS team. not to mention we lost our leading receiver and leading RB from last years team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Dozer Posted October 11, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 343 Content Count: 13,697 Reputation: 2,041 Days Won: 45 Joined: 09/04/2006 Share Posted October 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bull94 said: not to mention we lost our leading receiver and leading RB from last years team And the only two defensive linemen that can generate a pass rush, the only LB we had that can consistently take on and get off blocks, and two offensive linemen while not great but are a major upgrade over what we have in their spots. Plus all the other guys CCS chased of that were basically a whole recruiting class worth of players. As usual the nuance of roster management and player development are lost on many of the loudest voices here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gullibull Posted October 11, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 1 Content Count: 472 Reputation: 109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/01/2015 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Well right now this coach is a disaster. I can name 10 coaches we could have hired that would not have let last night happen. There is literally no excuse period. Our players are bad but they are not that bad. Hopefully our coach grows into the position. Co-offensive coordinator is not head coach. I see parallels to our basketball program maybe CJS has to run it into the ground then we can bring in a proven head coach. Probably a retread that is kicked to the curb that isn't flashy but knows the game and will bring stability and respect back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted October 11, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted October 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, gullibull said: Well right now this coach is a disaster. I can name 10 coaches we could have hired that would not have let last night happen. There is literally no excuse period. Our players are bad but they are not that bad. Hopefully our coach grows into the position. Co-offensive coordinator is not head coach. I see parallels to our basketball program maybe CJS has to run it into the ground then we can bring in a proven head coach. Probably a retread that is kicked to the curb that isn't flashy but knows the game and will bring stability and respect back. No our talent is abysmal it’s going to take at least three years to be decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted October 11, 2020 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,609 Content Count: 74,459 Reputation: 10,772 Days Won: 422 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted October 11, 2020 36 minutes ago, puc86 said: That he recruited a player that had tremendous upside at a host of positions outside of QB does not some how prove that his master plan was to transition away from the system he was fully bought into. Q had a ton of better offers to play another position if he wanted to go that route. He was brought here to play qb, it was just a matter when he'd be ready ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted October 11, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted October 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, Triple B said: Q had a ton of better offers to play another position if he wanted to go that route. He was brought here to play qb, it was just a matter when he'd be ready ... And he was a whisker away of not being the starter. Then came Cuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted October 11, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted October 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, Triple B said: Q had a ton of better offers to play another position if he wanted to go that route. He was brought here to play qb, it was just a matter when he'd be ready ... Coaches bring in those types of athletes with the promise of letting them take a shot at qb and sometimes they are more honest about that than others but I’m sure that was the moment the sky parted and CWT saw that he was dead wrong about his deeply held convictions and was going to develop the Gulf Coast offense post haste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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