Sitting_BULL Posted October 17, 2005 Group: Bull Backers Topic Count: 111 Content Count: 2,527 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/12/2002 Share Posted October 17, 2005 notice something the announcers said about 5 different times throughout the game?  They said "USF's passing game is extremely unsophisticated....even the routes the WR's run are very simplistic and very easy to cover."I know we supposedly have good receivers, so are the routes being kept simple for the QB's or is our offensive scheme just that "low budget?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted October 17, 2005 Group: Member Topic Count: 32 Content Count: 1,911 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/26/2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 I wouldnt read into what they said too much. Judging by most of the things they said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisa el Toro Posted October 17, 2005 Group: Member Topic Count: 132 Content Count: 10,380 Reputation: 1,058 Days Won: 18 Joined: 08/11/2003 Share Posted October 17, 2005 Those commentators were so on Pitt's jock! I thought they were so biased towards the Panthers that I tuned them out after a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdgukhsdgl Posted October 17, 2005 Group: Member Topic Count: 287 Content Count: 3,078 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/18/2002 Share Posted October 17, 2005 it is true to some extenet though.... just think.... if you have 4-5 WR's running routes, SOMEONE is bound to be open somewhere, but PJ was taking coverage sacks all day. So he either cant see the plays develop or the pass routes are terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullDoug Posted October 17, 2005 Group: Member Topic Count: 469 Content Count: 4,451 Reputation: 52 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/27/2001 Share Posted October 17, 2005 PJ gets happy feet as soon as he sees the primary WR being covered.  I believe his WR progressions include two WRs and then he gets to decide to run or take a sack.  Forget stepping outside the tackle box and throwing the ball away.  That's way to hi-tech.  Gotta save that stuff for the seniors only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarySJ Posted October 17, 2005 Group: Member Topic Count: 141 Content Count: 2,661 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/14/2000 Share Posted October 17, 2005 There was one play where the announcers made a good point about USF's passing game. I forget exactly which play it was, but the point was: USF is keeping the tight end and the running back into block, which means there are only two receivers in the pattern, which leaves the QB with no one to throw to and is easy for the defense to cover. Which was correct. So maybe part of the problem in the Pitt game was poor offensive line play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFPDiddy Posted October 17, 2005 Group: Member Topic Count: 17 Content Count: 1,334 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/15/2003 Share Posted October 17, 2005 The routes themselves are not the direct problem, it is the combination of them. We do very little in terms of getting a safety to bite one direction or catching a linebacker out of position.A classic example would be sending twin receivers into post and flag routes. This would not work well vs many coverages unless the play lasts for a long time, as a safety in 2 or 3 deep zone can sit on that until a little after the routes break.Now what if the inside receiver ran a seam or quick post, while the outside ran a stop and go? The safety would see the stop, and likely cheat in on the post. That opens up a lot more room for the stop n go. This wouldnt work vs all coverages, but cover 2 and man coverage could potentially give up a touchdown.The problem with setting plays up like that is you need a QB to be able to not only know the play, but also the intent of the play vs different defenses. After all this, he still has to have pocket poise and throw the ball on time and place it at least decently. He also must read the play, since things like the corner playing off the route or the safety leaving the post more open to play the outside in anticipation of such a play could result in a turnover.It's a complex game for the QB and good defenses as well. You don't just line up and do something, you have to understand the field. Julmiste seems to have trouble doing this after he makes a mistake or gets rattled a bit, so its hard to scheme for him. Part of this, though, is also on the OC. Our OC has rarely impressed me over the past years, be he hobbie or smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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