BrassBulls12 Posted February 29, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 399 Content Count: 4,679 Reputation: 517 Days Won: 4 Joined: 02/03/2017 Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 hour ago, chapelbull said: He looked like that and still was a stud. Just think if the balls (and the players) were juiced back then Are we going to address the pitching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted February 29, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, smazza said: mays spent 2 years in his prime in army and 14 years in the worst ballpark for right handed hitters.........had he not he would have hit 800 homeruns http://a.espncdn.com/mlb/columns/neyer_rob/1374309.html Here's Neyer's quote about a fellow writer who believes "that Mays would have broken Ruth's record if he hadn't been in Candlestick. But he's wrong, and shouldn't be allowed to spout such nonsense without getting called on it." "To suggest that Mays would have hit 800 home runs, though, if only he'd played in a "fair" ballpark, serves only to damage the credibility of Mays' case, because the informed baseball fan in the 21st century is going to know better." Edited February 29, 2020 by JTrue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapelbull Posted February 29, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 3 Content Count: 7,683 Reputation: 1,491 Days Won: 17 Joined: 08/27/2017 Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 hour ago, BrassBulls12 said: Are we going to address the pitching? Absolutely ..... he was a pretty darn good pitcher too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrassBulls12 Posted February 29, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 399 Content Count: 4,679 Reputation: 517 Days Won: 4 Joined: 02/03/2017 Share Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) Oh not the fact that he faced pitching that would get cut in college? Or that he played at a time where hitting was given an advantage? Edited February 29, 2020 by BrassBulls12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friscobull Posted February 29, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 7 Content Count: 10,845 Reputation: 3,962 Days Won: 67 Joined: 05/23/2019 Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 hour ago, BrassBulls12 said: Oh not the fact that he faced pitching that would get cut in college? Or that he played at a time where hitting was given an advantage? Comparing players of different era’s is an exercise in futility, but my vote goes for Bob Uecker “Mr. Baseball”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinRicky Posted February 29, 2020 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 582 Content Count: 22,677 Reputation: 5,813 Days Won: 108 Joined: 09/13/2007 Share Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, BrassBulls12 said: Are we going to address the pitching? Yep, that Koufax, Drysdale and Gibson were so easy. First home may have been off Warren Spahn. 2 hours ago, BrassBulls12 said: Oh not the fact that he faced pitching that would get cut in college? Or that he played at a time where hitting was given an advantage? Like the higher pitching mound? Edited February 29, 2020 by CousinRicky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted February 29, 2020 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 96,987 Reputation: 10,808 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted February 29, 2020 I just hope we learned something from this whole, terrible Astros thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friscobull Posted February 29, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 7 Content Count: 10,845 Reputation: 3,962 Days Won: 67 Joined: 05/23/2019 Share Posted February 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, Brad said: I just hope we learned something from this whole, terrible Astros thing. Yes, if you ain’t cheating then you ain’t winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapelbull Posted February 29, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 3 Content Count: 7,683 Reputation: 1,491 Days Won: 17 Joined: 08/27/2017 Share Posted February 29, 2020 50 minutes ago, Friscobull said: Comparing players of different era’s is an exercise in futility, but my vote goes for Bob Uecker “Mr. Baseball”. Yes on both parts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrassBulls12 Posted February 29, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 399 Content Count: 4,679 Reputation: 517 Days Won: 4 Joined: 02/03/2017 Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 hour ago, CousinRicky said: Yep, that Koufax, Drysdale and Gibson were so easy. First home may have been off Warren Spahn. Like the higher pitching mound? Ok what about the others? Guys today face pitchers throwing 95 plus with power sliders everyday. Back then they might see 90 once a week. As for the other point, it was going from the dead ball era to the live ball era. The biggest one being not being able to doctor baseballs. Pitchers in the 1920s were use to being able to throw their fastballs by hitters because they were hard to see and used offspeed and breaking pitches much less. It would have been a rare to see a curve ball when ahead in count. Thus hitters just sat on fastballs they knew were coming. With ball being much easier to see, hitting skyrocketed in the 1920s as pitchers failed to adjust. The hitters of today would have field days. But as someone mentioned, there’s no real way to end this debate. There advantages and disadvantages for every era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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