Triple B Posted January 26, 2020 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,610 Content Count: 74,509 Reputation: 10,798 Days Won: 422 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted January 26, 2020 I didn't see a bonus for winning a natty ...... We obviously still have that Michael Kelly problem. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted January 26, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted January 26, 2020 48 minutes ago, Bull Dozer said: At the very least it's a signal the administration is giving this staff time. Realistically we aren't fending off P5 schools if they want our coordinators so this is basically the school saying "we're giving you time to turn this around and we want stability". Stability is important and significantly underrated by quite a few people on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted January 26, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Author Share Posted January 26, 2020 17 minutes ago, puc86 said: I would prefer the bounties be on P5 programs and a significant one for NY6 a NY6 win significantly moves the needle and P5 wins get far more buts in stands than UCF wins ( if for no other reason than P5 games are at the start of the season while UCF the end). I really just don’t like the optics of exalting UCF above any other G5 program and I think it feeds their narrative. If you look at almost every comment Scott makes he brings up the fact we have not won a conference championship...EVER. He knows this is the goal. We can’t look at something we have already done (beating P5 teams) as the goal. This program deficiency needs to end now! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowdown Posted January 26, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 5 Content Count: 993 Reputation: 121 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/05/2007 Share Posted January 26, 2020 4 hours ago, BDYZR said: They're all going to leave for that big money contract as soon as they prove that they can do the job, so why not make their contract more incentive laden? Because they won't sign it when they have other better options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinRicky Posted January 26, 2020 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 582 Content Count: 22,676 Reputation: 5,813 Days Won: 108 Joined: 09/13/2007 Share Posted January 26, 2020 3 hours ago, NewEnglandBull said: If you look at almost every comment Scott makes he brings up the fact we have not won a conference championship...EVER. He knows this is the goal. We can’t look at something we have already done (beating P5 teams) as the goal. This program deficiency needs to end now! He hasn't checked with Puc about the importance of winning a Conf title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted January 26, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted January 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, CousinRicky said: He hasn't checked with Puc about the importance of winning a Conf title. I am expecting the call next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted January 28, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,895 Content Count: 66,073 Reputation: 2,431 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted January 28, 2020 On 1/26/2020 at 1:46 PM, slowdown said: Because they won't sign it when they have other better options the schools are horrible negotiators because there is no accountability for their inability to negotiate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted January 28, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted January 28, 2020 31 minutes ago, smazza said: the schools are horrible negotiators because there is no accountability for their inability to negotiate It’s because AD’s negotiate these deals a handful of times in their career while coaches are represented by people negotiating their deals at least that many times a year. Also to the AD getting their “guy” is the important part to them so that they can move on up and leave any bad deals with the next guy, where as agents are only worried about getting their guy paid. The inequity of the contracts are appalling especially when you look at the lopsided clauses for breaking the contract, if a school breaks it they owe every penny if a coach breaks it they owe comparatively nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skingraft Posted January 28, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 743 Content Count: 13,357 Reputation: 2,482 Days Won: 63 Joined: 12/11/2006 Share Posted January 28, 2020 It's amazing how inept some AD's are in negotiating agreements and how we do not make some of these contracts incentive laden versus assured money. I liken it to when the rooking getting drafted would get a huge payday without ever taking a snap. Coaches should be shifted to something similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinRicky Posted January 28, 2020 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 582 Content Count: 22,676 Reputation: 5,813 Days Won: 108 Joined: 09/13/2007 Share Posted January 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, Skingraft said: It's amazing how inept some AD's are in negotiating agreements and how we do not make some of these contracts incentive laden versus assured money. I liken it to when the rooking getting drafted would get a huge payday without ever taking a snap. Coaches should be shifted to something similar. You confused me. Don't rookies get huge contracts without taking a snap or throwing a pitch or making a jumper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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