I’d be interested to hear your theories . . .

[BDYZR]

16 minutes ago, brybull1970 said:

I think some of this has been cyclical, but it boils down to their Athletic Director doing two things better than ours:

• Over the last 5+ years they have done a much better job at identifying and recruiting coaches for Football and Men's Basketball, which may in part be tied to the second bullet point
• The have grown their athletic department revenues by 51.2% from 2012 to 2018, while USF has only grown theirs by 4.5% over that same time frame (see chart below), while most schools in the confernece have also been able to significantly grow their revenues

While our AD's haven't had as much to work with in recent years, relative to their peers, they also haven't done much to increase revenues either which is why this should not only be a priority for the AD (which it is, but we'll see how effective he is when the 2019 numbers are published) but the university as well (which it clearly has not been).            

 

Harlan arrived at USF in March 2014 from UCLA.

It's interesting that UCF has had two huge years revenue increases and only one minor decline while we're basically back to 2015 numbers.

[Triple B]

3 hours ago, Bulls4ever said:

Their day is coming it's all cyclical.

 

[Triple B]

5 minutes ago, brybull1970 said:

When the next round of realignment comes in 2025, UCF is gone.

If that's what it takes to separate us from those assklowns ..... I'm good with it.

[Triple B]

10 minutes ago, brybull1970 said:

I just don't want to be in a spot 10 years from now when they are scheduling 2-for-1's with us.

If I'm alive 10 years from now and we're scheduling those dipshits when we don't have to, I'm going postal on someone over at the Selmon Center

[NewEnglandBull]

20 minutes ago, brybull1970 said:

Where they really outperform us is in:

• Other - $340% higher than USF in 2018, or $7.2M higher
• Contributions - 262% higher than USF in 2018, or $5.2M higher
• Ticket Sales - 81% higher than USF, or $2.5M higher
• Student Fees - 34% higher than USF, or $5.9M higher

The "Other" bucket includes but is not limited to including game guarantees, school-specific revenue from bowl games, support from third-parties guaranteed by the school such as TV income, housing allowances, etc.; revenue from sports camps; income from athletics restricted endowments and investments that are used for operations in the reporting year.

Of course we are generate $3.6M more than them through licensing fees and $1.6M more from services and/or monies provided by the university.

What concerns me the most is they generate the second most revenue behind UConn among non-P5 schools. When the next round of realignment comes in 2025, UCF is gone.

Only problem is realignment is done...

[chapelbull]

They're telling baseball recruits they are headed to the Big 12

[East lake bull]

24 minutes ago, brybull1970 said:

Where they really outperform us is in:

• Other - $340% higher than USF in 2018, or $7.2M higher
• Contributions - 262% higher than USF in 2018, or $5.2M higher
• Ticket Sales - 81% higher than USF, or $2.5M higher
• Student Fees - 34% higher than USF, or $5.9M higher

The "Other" bucket includes but is not limited to including game guarantees, school-specific revenue from bowl games, support from third-parties guaranteed by the school such as TV income, housing allowances, etc.; revenue from sports camps; income from athletics restricted endowments and investments that are used for operations in the reporting year.

Of course we are generate $3.6M more than them through licensing fees and $1.6M more from services and/or monies provided by the university.

What concerns me the most is they generate the second most revenue behind UConn among non-P5 schools. When the next round of realignment comes in 2025, UCF is gone.

I vehemently disagree, our ACADEMICS are far superior to theirs and this is far more important than athletes to schools in major conferences ie shared research. 

[Dave_Glaser]

6 minutes ago, East lake bull said:

I vehemently disagree, our ACADEMICS are far superior to theirs and this is far more important than athletes to schools in major conferences ie shared research. 

And our academic profile can continue to improve if the front door (athletics) becomes more attractive.

[BulledOver]

3 hours ago, East lake bull said:

All of these factors,  bad hires, Big East imploding,  lack of AD leadership, higher academic standards, led to our current situation, and maybe beating us means more to them than it does for us, after all we've been in a big time conference. In the final analysis we will be the ones chosen to move up when realignment comes because we are an academic powerhouse.

strong point

[Ghostbuster]

40 minutes ago, brybull1970 said:

What concerns me the most is they generate the second most revenue behind UConn among non-P5 schools. When the next round of realignment comes in 2025, UCF is gone.

Absolutely great points about the money numbers, and the gap between us is alarming.  However I don't think there will be a next round of alignment. 

ESPN owns all the major teams' tv rights now anyways, and I doubt they'd want to pay more for a conference just because a school moved from conference A to conference B.  And if ESPN doesn't offer substantially more to the expanding conference, the existing schools won't want a pay cut just to get a new member.  (IE see the AAC's strategy when UConn left... leaving the spot open)