smazza Posted December 18, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,895 Content Count: 66,073 Reputation: 2,431 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted December 18, 2019 9 hours ago, WhoRUSF said: McCloud is extremely deficient with arm strength, and that effects his accuracy. It's hard to be a quarterback when you lack these attributes, and I was never a Jordan McCloud fan this year. That being said, he has enormous potential because hes athletic, and I actually like his decision making and leadership. If he can put in the work with good coaching, he might be a QB who can help us be a solid bowl team. But if he doesn't progress, he cannot start again. why in the world do you recruit a qb with weak arm strength? why is a kid with a weak arm playing qb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emrober5 Posted December 18, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 17 Content Count: 1,011 Reputation: 240 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/06/2011 Share Posted December 18, 2019 It remains to be seen how good this QB is, but there is no shame in losing your job to Sam Howell. That dude is a beast. Put up better numbers than Trevor Lawrence this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted December 18, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, smazza said: not me i have been watching football a long time every system can work jeff scott is a winner,football smart and hard worker.the fact that his former head coach,fellow coaches and players think so much of tells me we have a future great head coach Assuming we can get the players for this type of offense you are correct. However, the past two coaches could not, so the jury is still out. Edited December 18, 2019 by NewEnglandBull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apis Bull Posted December 18, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,586 Content Count: 23,185 Reputation: 2,332 Days Won: 65 Joined: 09/05/2002 Share Posted December 18, 2019 9 hours ago, usfbullrider said: Looks like he's going for pro style. Not sure that's going to work but UNC qb incoming Clemson runs an RPO and the, "UNC qb" has got some wheels. He not Flowers, but he can run. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Bull Posted December 18, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 148 Content Count: 5,900 Reputation: 628 Days Won: 5 Joined: 09/02/2007 Share Posted December 18, 2019 9 hours ago, deters- said: It fails here because we've consistently recruited athletes that can play QB, not quality QBs with proper fundamentals, good vision and a capable arm. Mix that with terrible offensive coordinators, a junk OL and receivers that drop more passes than catches and no wonder it fails. It's a lack of talent, not the style of play. Just having an offensive line that could block worth a **** would instantly improve the offense no matter what system we run. That is the most important place to recruit imo, followed by QB. In your rant... do you see the pieces coming together? You are basically saying that we need to pull in a full team of P5 recruits while in a G5 conference, going up against basically every P5 program east of the Mississippi that tries to recruit Florida heavily. We can occasionally have one or 2 pieces of that puzzle in place (for instance, Mack and MVS), but, it's not the norm, nor sustainable for us. I completely agree with you, we can certainly make a pro-style work if we get the pieces in place, but, it's going to be hard to consistently have that talent level at all positions. Eventually though, good coaching can mask some deficiencies on the OL, even in a "pro-style" system. Hopefully we have the right coach and he gets the right staff to maximize his talent. I have always thought great coaches adapt to their talent. You see it with John Harbaugh in Baltimore right now. He has embraced Jackson and changed their style and is being rewarded with wins and a ton of fun. The great quote about Don Shula is my favorite... "He can take his'n and beat your'n and you'rn and beat his'n." - Houston Oilers coach Bum Phillips on Don Shula's coaching talent Basically, if CJS can come in here and recruit the best players we can recruit and coach them up to be the best players they can be, he'll have a ton of success. If he sets his sights on only players that fit his system, we'll likely miss on the rare talents like Q who can lift the team on their shoulders and carry us to wins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJBulls Posted December 18, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 13 Content Count: 1,273 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2011 Share Posted December 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Apis Bull said: Clemson runs an RPO and the, "UNC qb" has got some wheels. He not Flowers, but he can run. Yep, I encourage folks to watch his film...he can scoot pretty well when he needs to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinRicky Posted December 18, 2019 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 582 Content Count: 22,676 Reputation: 5,813 Days Won: 108 Joined: 09/13/2007 Share Posted December 18, 2019 32 minutes ago, Orlando Bull said: "He can take his'n and beat your'n and you'rn and beat his'n." - Houston Oilers coach Bum Phillips on Don Shula's coaching talent One of the all time best sports quotes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apis Bull Posted December 18, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,586 Content Count: 23,185 Reputation: 2,332 Days Won: 65 Joined: 09/05/2002 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Give me a good pocket passer that can run okay over a good runner that can pass okay anyday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted December 18, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted December 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Apis Bull said: Give me a good pocket passer that can run okay over a good runner that can pass okay anyday. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrassBulls12 Posted December 18, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 399 Content Count: 4,679 Reputation: 517 Days Won: 4 Joined: 02/03/2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) Regardless of what type of QB you think we need, the QB room got better with Fortin joining. Edited December 18, 2019 by BrassBulls12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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